Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 02/09/25*

Great to see our taxpayer funded refugee industry NGOs working so diligently. The unsung heroes in all this!

Chairman of Independent Ireland Ken O’Flynn has said he has come into possession of a lengthy document that reveals how asylum and international protection applicants are being coached to effectively exploit the IPO interview process through the use of a series of scripted responses.

EDIT: Apologies ....just realised I responded to quite an old post here.

It seems a strange argument to point to the legalisation of gay marriage in European countries in the context of your argument when it can just as easily be held up as evidence that Europe has become more liberal and more secular as multiculturalism has grown.

I have noted with interest the anger / dissatisfaction of some commentators and right-leaning personalities the algorithm sends my way as to Maria Steen not being on the ballot for the presidential election. It does strike me as odd that there are people out there who rail against the dangers of religious backwardness inherent in Islam while seemingly yearning to restore a religious backwardness of their own.

Usually the same people who forget the irony of St Patrick's Day being effectively a celebration of the wiping out of Irish indigenous culture by a Middle Eastern religion . . .

Have you found out what a spice bag is yet boggles?

If you are ever coming here to Ireland some posters might be able to recommend where get a good one, they do nothing for me but horses for courses.

Well, it doesn't have to be causation at all. Indeed, I'm not saying multiculturalism is the reason why European countries have gone on to legalise gay marriage — but rather it doesn't really seem to have inhibited it and that seems an important point to make here if we are saying that multiculturalism is bringing us to a society based on dogmatic religious law.

I'm looking here at a map showing the status of marriage equality around the world and it would seem there are less progressive frameworks than Western Europe in Latin America, Eastern Europe, almost the entirety of Africa (including Christian Africa) and Asia. There seems from that map to be just as much a case for pointing to correlations between (1) lower economic development or (2) non multicultural countries and the lack of legalised gay marriage. I note also that Japan — the oft cited darling of the anti-multiculturalism argument — has yet to legalise gay marriage.

Not only that, but it also seems fair to suppose that many people in some of the more strongly homophobic societies who are either gay, bisexual, curious or simply would otherwise advocate for more liberal approaches will end up leaving those countries.

Is that poster brought to us by the refugee industry?!

Another few billion in the budget for the industry should help matters! Keep focusing on those nasty bankers plebs!

Yeah I remember that survey, and it's a decade old to be fair. It's interesting you cite it because — going back to that map I linked in a previous post which suggests a link between lower economic development and the legal recognition of gay marriage — that particular poll was conducted exclusively in areas where the Muslim population was +20%, which by and large tend to be poorer areas. In those areas, you will get greater amplification of views of more socially conservative Muslims (particularly those coming from Bangladeshi or Pakistani conservative backgrounds), to the exclusion of the hundreds of thousands of Muslims who live elsewhere across the country. People always pull these surveys out, find the figures that engage interaction, and all nuance is lost — including nuance around variations due to age, the fact that younger Muslims tend to have more diverse friend groups than older Muslims etc etc.

Muslims also aren't voting for religiously conservative candidates — in fact they have tended to vote more liberal-leaning parties and Muslim politicians tend to be liberal Muslims (like Sadiq Khan). So it's not really clear that Muslims, to the extent many of them have religiously conservative views, are actually proactively seeking to put people with religiously conservative views in office in any great number.

You have no proof of the numbers who have refused to accept a house because of location .

Lower economic development is correlated with lower legal recognition of gay marriage. However Muslim state religion is even more heavily correlated with lack of legal recognition of gay marriage, it is simply a handy excuse that the former masks the latter when it comes to many Muslim nations.

The economically developed Muslim nations reveal the genuine story. Is

gay marriage legal in Qatar? Bahrain? UAE? Is homosexuality even legal?

And what, so the areas with the largest and highest concentrations of Muslims are somehow not representative of Muslim views? Come on now

Once again if it were evangelical christians coming over from Alabama and South Carolina etc instead, I very much doubt you’d bending over backwards to excuse the “nuances” in their beliefs to the same extent

'' We long had places for people to move to ,they just did not want to move to those parts of the country . ''

Are you trying to give the impression that all homeless are refusing houses or is it more like off the cuff .

Department from local authorities indicates that there were 934 refusals of offers of social housing in 2024, of which 693 were first

https://www.oireachtas.ie/en/debates/question/2025-07-01/9/

There are genuine reasons for refusals .

https://www.newstalk.com/news/over-1500-social-housing-offers-refused-across-the-country-last-year-1422331

And the ongoing welfare costs due to family reunification.

Gannon on VM1 now talking about immigration.

That party doesn't seem to think anyone should be sent back .

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/crime/asylum-seeker-with-terror-convictions-held-in-custody-as-gardai-fear-he-poses-risk-to-public-safety/a1559987749.html

Well this is shocking. Someone who was deported from the uk after serving time for terror convictions is currently in this country awaiting a decision on their asylum application.

What kind of 'vetting' was conducted here ?

According to the article, they were spared convictions because it might affect their ambition to become irish citizens.

one of the most deluded politicians there is…