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Gallbladder removal

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,417 ✭✭✭Tefral


    I cant eat Red Meat burgers or have "full fat" lattes since ive had mine out. Probably just as well.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,363 ✭✭✭Fiona


    Have you tried any digestive enzymes to see does it help with the red meat?

    Steak is my fav meat so have purchased Solgar digestive enzymes, they appear to be only ones with Ox Bile which according to Dr Google is the best bile supplement post GB removal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1 lmfh123


    Just wondering if anyone got gallbladder removal in TUH and how long can I expect to be waiting on urgent list ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 987 ✭✭✭whosedaddy?


    had a pre-assessment meeting yesterday (follow on from hospitalisation few weeks after arriving in mater ED with acute attack).

    long of the short, i told them I'm not ready for op. 6-8 weeks waiting once on the list.

    i just didnt feel informed enough. So they proceeded to tell the a range of medical facts, whilst not engaging with any of my views or concerns.

    Removing the gallbladder has no effect on my lifestyle or diet. fact, dont listen to other ppls hearsay.

    You had one attack , you are by definition at higher risk to have another worse attack (and you will be back). But no explanation why the risk is higher.

    and a few other...

    So even if i had been open for surgery at this stage i decided they are not the ppl i want to operate on me.

    On the way out they handed me a brochure about keyhole and it alks about treatment options and the need to discuss them.. only i wasn't told of any treatment options (and why they may not apply)...

    Could anyone with positive experience in Dublin PM me please?

    I may go private, and pay extra to be told the same thing, but sugar coated and with cherry on top. they may even pretended my concerns mattered.

    But feeling to be involved in my own health is important to me.. not sure whether i actually am :-)

    Once it's out, i can't put it back in..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,417 ✭✭✭Tefral


    Having had mine out. I did have two attacks, the first time i didnt know what it was, but despite being in excrutiating pain for 2 days, i eventually shrugged it off. about a month later i had another attack. worse this time, couldnt even stand up, after 3 days in pain I went to my doc, spend 3 days in hospital and then had it out. all happened so fast. The reason I had another attack is the Gall Stones merged into a golf ball size one. Obvously that cant be passed and it got inflamed. This is common. If you have an attack, basically you do need it out as the attack is the stone trying to be forced out and it cannot.

    There is no impact to Lifestyle, but there defintely was an impact on my diet. I have had to cut out full fat dairy and burgers. After that all good and i havent looked back. 10 months on from my op and i can bearly see my scars from the keyhole.

    The only reason why they wouldnt do keyhole is if the surgery becomes massively complicated to remove it. Then you would end up with a roughly 4 inch scar on your front.



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  • Posts: 7,522 ✭✭✭ Diana Jolly Plumber


    please don’t take this the wrong way but even had the surgeon explained in striking detail the procedure and et all would you even have understood him/her?

    You’re not medically trained and I’m sorry to say your post comes across very arrogant. “They’re not the people I want to operate on me”…. what??

    It’s a simple day procedure that I only imagine the surgical team has carried out 100’s of times a week! You’re not on the books for Open Heart surgery in fairness.

    What you were told is what you needed to be told. Why does it matter what medical reason there is for attacks becoming more frequent after the initial? Like seriously, why does it?

    It sounds to me like you’re a nervous patient looking for excuses to delay the operation, but I can promise you the pain you will experience and the frequency it will happen as time passes will make you regret these types of decisions I think.

    I really hope I haven’t come across the wrong way here but I can’t lie it really rubs me the wrong way that you refused the surgery for stupid reasons like the above. My partner started suffering with gallbladder symptoms while pregnant so couldn’t be operated on and all in all between waiting for pregnancy and birth to be finished, the recovery after, etc etc she was waiting almost 18 months.

    The reason why the attacks became more frequent wasn’t much of a concern when you were spending nearly every week in hospital on painkiller IV drips..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 987 ✭✭✭whosedaddy?


    no offence taken.

    But you know nothing about me and my abilities to understand detailed medical information.

    I'm not a nervous patient, but I'd rather be comfortable with my decision. Since when is there something wrong with looking for a second opinion. instead of what felt like being railroaded into it (and that was how I felt during the appointment, very subjective)

    I' m not declining the operation, it is inevitable, but i feel not being informed enough to be at ease with it.

    If i had posted similar experience about walking away from a builder that i wasnt prepared to deal with in DIY forum, I wonder would I have been labeled the same way?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,771 ✭✭✭Pretzill


    I am on a waiting list for gallbladder removal - I have had a few flareups the most recent one landed me in hospital for two weeks, seriously ill, with a bad infection. It is unlikely I will be operated on this year, as the list is so long in my area - I am a public patient another attack could be extremely serious - can I take your place?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 FurrySlippers


    So, had the OP 2 weeks ago, and staples out today. Still a bit of weeping from the wound (open surgery, not "keyhole" ), so, while there pretty much no pain after about 4 days, I am now just dealing with wound healing. Which I forgot how slow it was.

    Generally, strength was very good before, so I am basically "better than I really am". So have to force myself to do nothing for the sake of the wound healing process.

    Food seems fine. Ate light for first few days, now eating normal with no issues.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,345 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    Just after being discharged from hospital after suffering a terrible attack the pain was absolutely horrendous. It was badly infected and I was given a lot of IV antibiotics. When I got home a lump appeared on the ball of my foot which is gout, which, with steroids and gout medication is now on the mend. I'm taking it very easy on what I eat but have terrible diarrhea the last three days. I'm hoping it's because the digestive system lost good bacteria and it will balance out in time but I can't leave the house it's that bad. Could it be the gout medication? I'm due to get the gallbladder removed in 6 weeks.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,534 ✭✭✭Tony H


    Just an update , waiting for a few years for my removal , had a protectomy (BarbieButt)5 weeks ago and just got an appointment for surgery for the 24th July ,

    Just like buses none for ages and then they all turn up , anyway hopefully it will be trouble free like my last surgery .



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,688 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels


    Sorry to drag up an old thread, I've been refered to surgery to have mine removed, any idea on time frames to wait from your own experiences?

    How has it affected you since removal?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,345 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    I got really sick with it last May, they called me in August for removal but I was going on holiday, between the jigs and the reels I got it removed on the 24th of October, it was slightly more difficult than normal he said, I ended up with 4 incisions instead of the usual 3. Tbh I never felt as well, no pain, no morning nausea, I'm still taking Nexium every second or third day but that's no big deal. Just look after the wounds carefully, do what they tell you and you'll be fine.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,688 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels


    Hows your eating habits after? Do you take any supplements like bile salts?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,345 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    Not a bother I can eat anything, no I don't take anything like that, just the Nexium and my blood pressure tablet.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,688 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,688 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels


    I got my pre op date at the end of October, what is average wait time for surgery after?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,485 ✭✭✭Kalimah


    I waited about 2 weeks - had it done in St James about 5 years ago,



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,688 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,345 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    About 2 weeks as has been said already unless you get cancelled which happened to me. I got the pre op in August, between the jigs and the reels I had to get a mini pre op in October and had the operation on the 24th.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,688 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels


    Thanks for the reply, mine is down as urgent so hopefully sooner rather than later.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,345 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 outbackhens


    When were you referred for surgery? I'm down as semi-urgent after being hospitalized in April and told 4-6 wks. Yeah, right. Still no date in sight (Limerick).



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 outbackhens


    You are aware that the Maximum Clinically Recommended Time (CRT) to admission in your case is <28 days?

    Boards dot ie won't let me post a link. Google "National Inpatient, Day Case, Planned Procedure (IDPP), and GI Endoscopy Waiting List Management Protocol 2024".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,688 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 outbackhens


    They don't seem to tell people. I was told 4-6 wks after discharge (=late May-early June). In early June I found out I wasn't even on the waiting list yet and was told it 'could be another few months'. In July I phoned to see where things stand (for my own work scheduling reasons) and was told I was listed as semi-urgent (max CRT <13 wks=3months) and that it could be September, October, November, December. I asked to be put on the cancellation list (=available at short notice). The 13 wks from the time I was actually put on the waiting list were up 3 wks ago. "Maximum Clinically Recommended Time" looks reasonable on paper. The reality is very different but they don't tell you that - they just string you along.
    I hope you get sorted fast. The last thing you want is emergency surgery.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,345 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    I don't think they do emergency surgery anymore, if you're really bad they can fish the stone out that's causing the blockage, Kilkenny and Vincent's hospitals have the equipment for doing it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8 outbackhens


    "Fishing the stone out" is ERCP, an endoscopic procedure, to remove stones blocking the common bile duct (not from the gallbladder). I had that done while in hospital. But if someone comes in with a gangrenous or perforated gallbladder they will do emergency surgery, 'cause, well, otherwise said patient will die. If it's super inflamed/infected (as in my case) they'll try to bring the inflammation/infection down first, as it would make for messy, difficult, significantly higher-risk surgery. Hence the 4-6 wk interval.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,345 ✭✭✭✭CoBo55


    That's what they did with me, I was on intravenous antibiotics for almost a week until it settled down as it was infected. I don't think anyone living in modern society would present with a gangrenous or perforated gallbladder unless they lived up the side of a mountain and ignored the horrendous pain for weeks which nobody could do, the pain involved is absolutely off the scale.



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