2025 Ryder Cup, Bethpage, NY.

A geographic entity. Don’t forget the Norwegian and the poor old Brits.

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In general, I quite like the tribalism and atmosphere of the Ryder Cup but that was a shambles yesterday. There was a dark undertone the whole day.

USPGA have handled it very badly. Has there even been an apology regarding the MC they hired? That alone set the tone. Emboldened the fans.

Hope Europe put it on them today.

There's a reason 80 million of them support Trump, he's the perfect embodiment of the arrogance, exceptionalism and arseholery they aspire to. Most of the 'aw shucks i just love ireland' is a front, when the mask slips they revert to type.

Those kind of comments, while they are a reflection of the trashy and classless country the States has become... I can kinda live with, or are nearly expected. I can put that down to stupid drunk Americans being stupid drunk Americans. Stupid drunk Americans have been a feature of golf for a long long time, unfortunately.

It's the personal insults, attacks on the players families or someone's physical characteristics that are completely OTT. That sh1te, and all the shouts while players are preparing to hit the ball, are things that are completely out of order.

Ah come on —…'the whole country' ? …all 340 million ='classless people' ?

A little bit of nuance wouldn't come amiss.🙂

MC should be told you’re no longer welcome here. Marshals should be contacting police about who’s giving out the abuse and getting them removed. I assume maybe they don’t want to do that role or not asked to. It seems to get worse each time in America.

Players should also have to be better controlled than shouting back f bombs also. Does nothing but adds fuel. Will some of suffer longer as a result of it. Yes some might say well it’s hard but they should have a process to let vice captain or someone else handle it that players picking out idiots

Looking at that single's lineup, I can see the yanks making a bit of a comeback by winning many of the earlier matches, bar Fleetwood's say. So I'd expect the yanks to potentially win 4-5 of the first 5 matches say, before hopefully the European strength further through the field takes hold & brings the cup home for Europe.

E.g. McIlroy looks to me like he is absolutely knackered. He has played 4 rounds now, with insults, expletive chants lead by a dumb PA cheerleader, and the worst type of ignorance & sneers thrown at him throughout. At times he's reacted to these, which is only natural, but I think it's all taken a bit of a toll on him tbh. He wasn't at his best at all in the 4 ball with Lowry yesterday evening for instance. That he has won 3.5 points for Europe, from a potential 4, so far in this Ryder Cup is a huge testament to the man's sheer class & competitiveness, and to that of his playing partners also.

Tbh, I think the singles match versus Scheffler will be a match too far for him sadly, but of course, I hope I'm wrong. Scheffler has had a lousy tournament, but he's back to a singles format now, that he, & the rest of the Yanks clearly & historically prefer. So he'll be mad keen to make some amends for his poor showing so far in this Ryder Cup. Ditto for many of the other yanks. This ain't fully over yet imho, despite what some posters are trying to say on here, but I do expect Europe to eventually win by a margin after the first 5 singles matches say... so all to play for!!

Go Europe!!!

P.s. with the behaviour of the American crowd and some of the US teams caddies & players e.g. de Chambeau's obnoxious outburst yesterday evening, it would be really great to see the Europeans wipe the floor with the septic tanks, and at least show that in this Ryder Cup, it was good golf that did the talking !!

Should never MC again

Each match has a referee. The way things are going with the Ryder Cup then it will get to the point where if a player receives verbal abuse then the referee will award the hole to the player automatically. Wouldn't be long in putting manners on the crowds since they could still engage in partisan cheering/jeering but without it crossing the line. Anyone in the crowd would think twice about doling out abuse as well since I doubt being in a crowd and being pinpointed as the offender who cost their side a hole would be popular.

That wouldn't work. People would put on the opposing teams colours and shout abuse at their own team😅

what’s to stop American fans abusing American players then in the hope of having a point awarded to them and against Europe for ‘being abused’

So if I and 13 of my friends go down to Adare Manner in 2 years dressed as Yankee’s and we abuse all the European players we can single handedly win the Ryder Cup for Europe?

Absolutely. In a way I'm delighted that this bigoted,classless, violent, racist country is taking full advantage of this opportunity to display itself to the world!

MC is fired

Pairings are out. Rory match 4 vs. Scottie!!!