Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

I felt sorry for all the UN translators who had to try to translate his gibberish rantings, like this:

We have a border, strong, and we have a shape, and that shape doesn't just go straight up. That shape is amorphous when it comes to the atmosphere. And if we had the most clean air, and I think we do, we have very clean air, we have the cleanest air we've had in many, many years. But the problem is that other countries like China, which has air that's a little bit rough, it blows. And no matter what you're doing down here, the air up here tends to get very dirty because it comes in from other countries where their air isn't so clean.

I think he is trying to say that air pollution doesn't respect borders but a toddler could say it more coherently than that dope.

Anyone lamenting the loss of George Hook from the airways is an idiot.

The felon is getting away with so much and has managed to avoid prison

Election fraud is gaining traction

US democracy was weak and near collapsing can it be saved or can states retreat to govern themselves.

Looks like the kirk investigation is so made up to make it look like a left plot, surely the killer will walk FBI is to compromised

Trying to make excuses for not combating pollution in the States would be my interpretation.

(Now I am no expert on pollution levels in the States but I doubt he or his cabal are interested in adressing them except by obfuscation ,denial or evasion )

Robinson is clearly one of them. There is massive doubt as to whether he is a killer though

Eh … did you read what you wrote? Here, let me help you out: his exact words, which you yourself have quoted, were:

… with the Maga gang desperately trying to characterise this kid … as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it

That's precisely what the "Maga gang" - including those who post on here - were doing. Blaming the left, the radical left, the libs, the trans, the immigrants, the aliens and every other "other" but refusing absolutely to consider even the remote possibility that he might have been one of them. And then trying to score political points from it.

Jimmy Kimmel did not say he was "one of them" - he said the Maga gang were desperate to say he wasn't one of them. Not a word of lie in that.

Wow. How can you quote Kimmel verbatim and then state he said something he didn’t. That’s quite an achievement. Most Trumpian.

Sometimes you stop and remember what an utterly absurd individual Donald Trump really is. It can be easy to get a bit desensitised over time…

Orange face. Weird hair. Fake wife. Obsession with gaudy trinketry and gold. Has the Oval Office bedecked with said gold. Has his mugshot framed and hung in the White House. Has a complete disregard and disconnection from ordinary people. Obsessed with wealth and being seen to be wealthy. Obsessed with adoration. Is lauded by the 'Christian' right-wing in the USA despite not giving a single fúck about anything Jesus ever was supposed to have said. Proudly proclaimed that he hates his opponents to a gaggle of these so-called Christian-nationalists at the Kirk memorial, to big cheers.

He's like a grotesque embodiment of neo-liberal economics; the kind of thing you would have made up to satirise its worst excesses. Just a completely bizarre person on all levels.

And voting him as president of the USA is really just the country saying, 'OK, you win, corporations. We cannot fight you any longer. If we can just have some liberal tears to drink, that will be enough. We'll forgo our union benefits, pensions, healthcare, liveable wage, housing, and will actively cheer you on as you further gouge our country under the banner of sticking it to the left. Take everything. We'll even cheer on these tariffs. We know we're paying them. And we know where the money is going. It's not going to us, but it's not going to libs, either! Yay!"

The right-wing and left-wing were dangerously close to agreeing on the utter devastation being wreaked upon their collective lives by corporate greed during and after austerity. Thankfully, Trump came along to champion some meaningless culture-war bullshit that has no bearing on anyone, but makes people angry. While trans people are made a complete pariah and bogeyman, firms like Blackrock continue to slide their tendrils into every public traded company to extract wealth, drive up profit, make products worse and buy up the loot of recession. And no-one notices or cares. Far too distracted. You really have to say, 'bravo'. What else can you do…

Why would he say "the Maga gang were desperate to say he wasn't one of them" except to suggest that he was one of them?

Maybe to highlight just how far into overdrive the MAGA gang had gone to distance themselves from what had happened, apportioning blame before any real facts were known. Blame that they laid everywhere and anywhere, other than on their own community.

But if you can't see that from listening to and reading Kimmel's exact words, then there's probably no point in trying to explain it to you.

While that may be, the suggestion that the killing was motivated by Kirk's anti-transgender stance is really all MAGA need. There won't be any nuance with this.

Where are you getting that "Robinson had left wing views" from, and what are they as nobody other than you appears to know them or how he came by them ?

A school friend of his gave a statement that he had, but then withdrew his statements. His mother said something about him leaning left in the past year or so, but this is a 22 year old man, who was living with a transitioning man, who comes from a Mormon hard Trump MAGA supporting family.

Caught reading U.S.A Today would highly likely get you looked on as leaning left in that family.

I`m not sure that will be an easy sell for them.

If it was they would have been all over it since early on when it was obvious Robinson wasn`t part of some left wing plot to kill Kirk. Especially when even here you see some still holding out hope it was.

There are also groups on the hard right that had no love for Kirk for his anti-transgender stance.

they just want to bankrupt him