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Presidential Election 2025

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,599 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    I didn't question HH and I didn't answer the question and then have to correct my answer.

    All I have done is comment on what happened.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,703 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Maybe it would be a blessing in disguise if Connolly won.

    It would keep her quiet and out of the way for the next 7 years



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,778 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    The irony! You were frothing at the mouth smearing Catherine Connolly all week. I sent you her exact words re Assad/Sanctions in the Dail and you ignored them because you have your own version of events. Your version is complete at odds with the UN and aid agencies.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    This would be hilarious stuff if it wasn't so dangerous.

    You don't appear to understand a single thing about what is happening in Europe today.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,833 ✭✭✭liamtech


    You would wonder though - would it really keep her quiet? Thats always been the problem with the activist class, she feels its her duty to give her view on everything. Could be some tricky water for the country

    I think, grudgingly, id have to admit HH is probably the better candidate. I wont make my mind up until the debate tbh

    But im annoyed with CC - she genuinely could have won this, but seems destined to keep tripping over landmines

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    You are the only one commenting on it anywhere. You are the only one turning it into a smear, all because of your sectarian hatred of Protestants who belong to the Orange Order.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,599 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady




    Did HH have to correct herself. Yes she did.

    That is a fact.

    Heather never 'belonged' to the OO. Thankfully.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    See my previous post, on repeat. You are flogging the skeleton of a horse at this stage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,599 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    😁 The only time I have mentioned HH's memory error was when you mentioned it yourself @blanch152

    There was a general conversation about the OO though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    You mentioned "a current candidate" in reference to HH. More blatant lies from you.

    It appears the Connolly implosion is having an effect on you.



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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    It may very well be (and she could be right) , but the way she says it is pretty terrible.

    It's that risk of "Foot in Mouth" that you generally want to avoid with the role of President.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70 ✭✭Leinsterview


    The same could have been said about Maria Steen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,599 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Yes in reply to you trying to make what I said 'sectarian'.

    I didn't want to drag HH into the conversation about the OO but of course you insisted she would be.

    Well done you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,847 ✭✭✭MFPM


    The Connoly hate rages on here I see...

    RTE radio news bulletin at 5 led with 'Cathetine Connolly described the US as an imperial power'...no sh!t Sherlock!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,847 ✭✭✭MFPM


    You struggle that much with people who hold different views to yours that you'd wish them silenced?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,833 ✭✭✭liamtech


    https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2025/0925/1535205-presidential-election/

    Im just reading the article now, and it really is shocking. Was there no opposition research done on this lady by the parties who backed her. Clearly not enough. Im aware she was always quite radical in her views, but they must have received some assurance that she would play the game properly.

    Honestly unless she reigns in her 'opinions' and trys again to appeal to a broad community of voters, she will lose. Initially i expected her to gather up lots of first preferences, and maybe only lose (come second) on transfers. Its starting to look more likely that she will be the first one eliminated.

    "We have a very volatile situation in the world. We have imperial powers. America is one of those imperial powers. As a neutral country we have a duty [to] use our neutrality to call out the abuse of power, no matter where that is, whether by Russia or America," she said.

    Id say Sinn Fein must be regretting not running their own candidate. I dont think CC is going end well. 4 weeks out, and only the first full day of campaigning with the other confirmed candidates, and already, it feels like a sinking ship.

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,599 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Well the context is the other two are saying nothing of import…deliberately. I prefer my Presidents to have opinions and no fear of expressing them.





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,049 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    In an ideal world.

    But, given that you have one side that cannot be stopped with talks, or letters, or nice words, what does one do then?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,599 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    How about being honest?

    If you want to join NATO to militarily engage with Russia, tell the people that is what you want to do.

    Go to the country on it, let the people decide.

    We are a neutral country the last time I looked, shouting down pacifists is not what we should be doing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,049 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    That is exactly what we don't need. Presidents are a figurehead, nothing more.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,833 ✭✭✭liamtech


    im assuming you are a lefty like myself. I genuinely dont know what to say except the RTE news have the right to report what she said. Honestly, no one is throwing these landmines on front of her - she seems to be actively seeking them out.

    As someone who has watched the left in this country make mistake after mistake (replacing Gilmore with Burton, insisting on proping up center right governments, refusing to cooperate at election time) - its all very depressing at times.

    CC could still pull back from the brink, but she needs to stay out of the tricky water - She needs to stay on message, and avoid getting tangled up in foreign policy issues -

    Will she be able to do it? I dont know, nothing that has happened thus far would indicate she will do so - but maybe?

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,049 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    I am not talking about NATO or Ireland; I am talking about the student union idealism that CC seems to have.

    She seems to think every problem can be solved with a chat over tea and sandwiches. We know that is not the real world.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,599 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    She isn't the President yet.

    I am not afraid of a President having an opinion, I don't want a wall flower.

    I may disagree with that opinion.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,982 ✭✭✭Homelander


    The thing about CC is that she's not blundering - she's just putting out her stall to a wider market. She has always held these opinions and spoken about them at length in the Dáil.

    As a Galway TD her views on such things aren't a huge factor in Dáil elections, and she is very good on domestic issues in general to her credit.

    But now that these opinions are being brought to the table as the views as the potential figurehead of the country, people are rightfull paying much more attention.

    But it didn't come from nowhere and she has done no u-turns whatsoever, she's been very consistently true to form over the past five years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,855 ✭✭✭blackwhite


    And that has what relevance to Connolly wanting to stop Ukraine receiving defensive weapons, or comparing the current German Govt to the Nazis for wanting to be able to defend themselves?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,833 ✭✭✭liamtech


    If that is the case, then she was a poor candidate to back for president. As you said, her views will be picked apart daily, and if she lacks the ability to play the game, and concentrate on less volatile topics - she is destined to lose.

    Its not that a president isnt allowed to have opinions btw - But they must prioritize the role as president, as representing the country, over their personal views.That should always be the priority

    She is NOT displaying an ability to do that - quite the opposite.

    Again it just reminds me of Corbyn TBH - I had friends who loved him, and were oblivious to his shortcomings as a potential PM. And when push came to shove, he prioritized his personal views and opinions, over the wellbeing of his party, and really, his country. And he lost, Labour lost, and thanks to Brexit, Britain lost.

    Its way too soon in this election cycle, which is really only 24 odd hours old, for CC to be setting off so many landmines - Its worrying from a left wing Point of view -

    Sic semper tyrannis - thus always to Tyrants



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,049 ✭✭✭✭markodaly


    The next opinion poll will be interesting.

    They are having a debate on Monday.

    CC seems to be having a daily disaster at this stage. We like our presidents to be uncontroversial. That is how Michael D won it back in the day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,847 ✭✭✭MFPM


    Catherine Connolly has said nothing wrong, perhaps her formulations could be better crafted but as I mentioned in a previous post, she's trying to be true to her views but she has to be mindful to her backers in SF, SD and Lab and that's not easy particularly as Labour and the Soc Dems are as soft as putty. SF for all their faults have some backbone.

    She is being scrutinised more than others in part because she dares to ignore the centrist political orthodoxy demanded by much of the media and certainly the pol corrs who barely conceal their contempt.

    The point about the RTE headline was that they led with it as if her point was controversial when it isn't but it's part of the game and that game is utterly agenda driven.

    Gavin has nothing to say, and HH little more, they are dreadful candidates, although one of them is likely to be elected unfortunately.

    It would be some feat if CC were to win and it would be a huge victory for the left and a real blow to that centrist political orthodoxy notwithstanding the limitations of the office of President.



  • Administrators Posts: 55,643 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    perhaps her formulations could be better crafted

    We seem to hear this all the time from people making excuses for Connolly. She says something stupid and it's "oh, yea, but what she really meant was…".

    When you're President, what you say actually matters. How you say it also matters.

    We cannot spend 7 years having to issue corrections every time our President says something naive or dim-witted cause she has forgotten she's not addressing a students union meet.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,599 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    It's the juvenile nature of the reporting that you have to laugh at really.

    It will have it's effect no doubt as HH or JG will studiously avoid revealing their beliefs



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