Icbf sept 2025 Evaluation due today

I'm sure my best 900kg 1 star cow thats thrown the 2k plus weanling won't change. That would go against everything their pushing last few years

Ya, just looking through some of the latest proofs there.

CLADDAGH MCCABE (ET) now at 9.4%.calving on cows, up from 8.5%.

DRUMLINE S 1185 still good on calving and docility.

Anything with Poor docility is getting hammered on the indices. €79 alone difference, between my best and poorest cows on docility.

The difference between a 3 star and 4 star cow now is only €19 (€108-€89 see below). So a farmer with 20 cows would benefit to the tune of €380 if he/she got rid of all his 3 Star cows and replaced them with 4 Star cows. So one Euro a day more profit. What am I missing?

go on to evaluation history on ICBF for each animal it will show you

Same here, only thing I can think of of one was smaller at birth. Both had same weight at 5 months.

Nobody said you must sell the low stared cows, but the did say you must have X 4/5 star cows to comply with the scheme, if you can only keep a certain number then certain 1-3 star cows have to go

I know this was asked before, but I don't think we had an answer, if a cow goes from 4 stars to 3 is she now ineligible? I know a bull stays eligible for the life of the scheme if he had 4 stars at the start.

Same as with the bull, once 4/5 star at any stage they are eligible in that herd. If you sell them they are rated at current rates

I haven’t done too bad. All the limo bulls I’m using for next year have gone down in their indexes. Whoever is behind the scheme really doesn’t like Limos.

Nearly all my aubracs stayed the same in every stat, some gained a little. It really shows the scheme was designed around an Aubrac cow. The only thing I could find that had a large positive increase was Parthenaise. A few heifers fell from 4 to 3. I’ve double what I need for the scheme so might be an idea to bring some heifers to the mart next week.

9/10 bulls I check have calving difficulty up and milk down. It almost looks like they just ran a program that took of 1kg milk from every bull and add half a percentage calving difficulty. A bit suspicious.

I was looking at Tweedale Lennox (LM440&) His daughter milk went from 2.4kg at 68% reliability to -5.0kg at 86% reliability. What I cant figure is that there are only 43 calving records listed under his daughter calving figures and when you look at his milk figures there was 37 scores included in the May evaluation. If there was only 6 daughters calved after the May evaluation how could this figure and reliability change so much??

I know it is easy to pull individual examples and find fault with them but surely there should be some consistency with less drastic changes in traits for farmers to have any confidence at all in these figures.

I get infuriated when they keep referring to these re-jigs as "improvements" - I don't think the farmers who are inflicted with working within these figures for schemes would call them improvements.

I also question how these indexes are called "genomic evaluations". My view is that the genomic part is simply for Parentage Verification and Myostatin, after that the figures are simply data derived estimates. If their genomic evaluations were accurate the figures wouldn't change drastically even when more data records are supplied - The data should merely re-enforce the initial evaluation within reason.

I just don't know……..

II would imagine it like the aa polled gene, which is very dominant in calves.

Some bulls seem to have a consistent impact on their calves, while others are hit and miss. The milk figures are very hard for suckler farmer's to measure on farm, considering a big bag dose not always mean more quality milk.

II thought originally milk figures came from weanlings and calves weight's