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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    I've been on the immigration thread banging that drum since before he was elected. The western world is going through an illegal immigration disaster currently.

    I'm on the verge of a site ban. Please don't rage bait me, I'm easily triggered especially late at night!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,943 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    So now carbon footprints are a hoax too?

    Sure Jan...

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 45,340 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    https://www.facebook.com/share/v/17FezWjgUb/

    Trump is a dangerous idiot. He's going to single handedly cause the rise of disease in the US though his vaccine scepticism and danger to unborn babies by his unfounded Tylenol claims.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭Ceathran


    Who created the greatest economy in US history after inheriting two disasters.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 149 ✭✭Ceathran


    I'm delighted he's calling out those horrendous people. I have no idea what is so attractive about their horrible wordlview. They have managed to capture the minds of almost everyone in the West.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,659 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,280 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    Why are autism and ADHD rates increasing so much? I imagine it is in part due to increased awareness among doctors of these disorders. Back in the old days they were rare. On the subject of autism and acetaminophen, bear in mind that an association does not imply a causal relationship. Opened umbrellas are highly corrected with rainfall but they don’t cause it. Similarly, there are many possible reasons why pregnant women who use acetaminophen may on average differ subtly from those who don’t. This is why sibling studies are so important which compare pregnancies in the same family where acetominophen was and wasn’t used. One of the best studies of this type was conducted in Sweden. They reviewed the cases of 2.5 million children and found 185 909 children (7.49%) who were exposed to acetaminophen during pregnancy. They then looked at the sibling cases in this group where the presence of acetominophen use differed in pregnancies. Overall they did find a slightly increased risk.of autism in the group using acetominophen but when they looked at siblings they found no correlation within families between acetaminophen and autism. The link to the paper is not cooperating so I’ve put this one in instead. Lots of expert opinions.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 18,099 Mod ✭✭✭✭ixoy


    I don't know - who is it? I know it's not Trump.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,982 ✭✭✭yagan


    The USA is going to implode.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,058 ✭✭✭✭threeball


    I'd be surprised if the manufacturers of Tylenol take this lying down. They're bound to take a case against Trump. He not only falsely implicated the ingredient of their product he also name checked the product directly. Its an open and shut case, no evidence, clear defamation. If it was anyone but Trump they would 100% sue but they may fear the wrath that will follow.



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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 4,591 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    When I was small in the 1980s a nurse would come to school every so often to vaccinate us. I believe in vaccines, but I am concerned at attempts to silence legitimate debate. The early founders of vaccination faced a lot of public reluctance too.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,560 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 455 ✭✭scuba8


    it certainly wasn’t trump:

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    The republicans are the party of corporate America. Most of the debt they incurred has been as the result of giving big tax cuts to multi millionaires and billionaires.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,560 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Me too but my concern is that the debate on what is safe to use is being run by political science operatives, not medical science with qualified persons checking daily on the outcome of the vaccinated patients.

    Trump has never found a problem with receiving medical care from medics or treatment with drugs, be it when carted off by ambulance from the White House to Walter Reed military hospital for Covid-19 treatment by an experimental antibody in 2020 or when wounded in the ear. It's even possible he got a MMR vaccination when he was a kid, standard treatment for kids from caring parents.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,559 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭RoyalCelt


    Thanks for saying I'm right. And so is he on this issue.

    I'm on the verge of a site ban. Please don't rage bait me, I'm easily triggered especially late at night!



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 4,591 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    Trump saying the Measles, Mumps, and Rubella vaccines should be taken "separately".

    Would it be worth doing that in order to reassure those worried since Andrew Wakefield (who I know was disciplined for suggesting a link to autism of taking the vaccines as one MMR vaccine) claims in the 1990s?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,111 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    He's talking about the MMR being given seperately from the varicella (chickenpox) vaccine which is how its scheduled in the US -as the combined MMRV. However, many if not most doctors already give the MMR on its own as a seperate shot, and the varicella one on its own anyway, due to the lower side effect risk.

    This new recommendation really isn't changing anything in practice. He's not talking about separating the MMR into different shots.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,910 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    "Debate" about what though?

    Look, Dr. Noel Browne wiped out TB in this country with a vaccine campaign. TB was something that affected nearly EVERY family in Ireland to some degree at one point in our country's history and now it's a thing of the past. Measles, mumps and rubella was reduced to insignificant levels because of the MMR vaccine. Polio has been practically eliminated and was once an awful disease that people genuinely feared.

    Vaccines work. But that doesn't mean that there may not be side effects among some people, as there is with ALL drugs. That does not eliminate the overall good that vaccines have done in our battle against diseases, especially crippling diseases.

    There is no real "debate" here, because the opposite side of the "vaccines are generally good" argument are the loons that say that they're "bad" and we should stop using them.

    Really, the only data worth looking at in so far as a vaccine "debate" is concerned is a numbers one with regards to how many people could, possibly, be affected negatively by a vaccine. But, frankly, I reckon such numbers would be so low as to be practically negligible and the universal benefit that vaccines provide will outweigh the, possible, detrimental effects.

    The fact is this, however…if we stopped vaccinating against certain diseases the amount of people that would be affected negatively by that would vastly exceed the amount of people negatively affected by their continued use.

    The whole anti-vax movement is utterly absurd.

    Post edited by Tony EH on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,280 ✭✭✭Ardillaun


    Trump doesn’t even bother to find out how to pronounce all these big words he suddenly has opinions about.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,142 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Considering Trump knows nothing about vaccines, or medicine in general, it’s best to ignore what he is saying.

    You’ve heard him speak, right?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,982 ✭✭✭yagan


    Trump suggested sticking lightbulb up the ass to fight COVID, and simpletons still think he might have a point.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,943 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


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    1. So it was Trump all along that pressured ABC to drop the show
    2. It was nothing to do with Kirk, but his hurt feelings. I hope all the posters here feel pretty stupid for saying otherwise
    3. Kimmel's show was never cancelled, at least not publicly. Sounds like a backdoor deal was done.
    4. I'm sure moaning about it will drive the ratings up
    5. The 16m settlement related to a journalist saying Trump was found liable for rape, when in fact it was sexual assault. Bizarrely people seem to forget that
    6. Release the Epstein files

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,142 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Jimmy back with a bang, a few delicious zingers in here at Trump.

    His ratings will be through the roof now. Nice how that works out.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,942 ✭✭✭Jimmy Bottlehead


    I wonder who the late night host from Ireland is that he's referring to?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,212 ✭✭✭✭salmocab


    no he said measles, mumps ehhh (as he couldn’t remember the word rubella) all 3 should be given separately. He did his usual once he gets going on a subject he decided to just say whatever came to his head without any knowledge on it because he’s always sure his base will just accept it and ride to his defence.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,989 ✭✭✭plodder


    I see the Tylenol manufacturer's share price has mostly recovered after the initial sell off on Monday, because it's clear there is no new evidence to justify changing medical advice on the drug. Nice rebuke to the disruptor in chief and RFK too.

    “The opposite of 'good' is 'good intentions'”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,111 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    Yes, sorry, you are right. I hadn't watched the press conference so thought he was just referencing the recent changes about the MMR/MMRV. I looked it up and see now that he said he thinks all 3 should be seperate because thats what he feels lol



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,989 ✭✭✭plodder


    Some nice words about Ted Cruz. I assume the reference to Ireland was Patrick Kielty.

    While he didn't retract the lie about MAGA, his sentiment was suitably contrite towards Kirk's family, and pro free speech. Let's hope that lasts. I see Joe Rogan has disagreed with Trump on this as well …

    “The opposite of 'good' is 'good intentions'”



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,358 ✭✭✭FishOnABike


    Who has made money from buying during the dip?



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