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Presidential Election 2025

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,080 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Not that I will be supporting Monaghan or anything next instead of the Dubs…..but it is very obvious on this thread that even extremely lukewarm SF support for Connolly has caused certain posters to get the metaphorical knives out which didn't happen until SF declared their very lukewarm support. Which I do find amusing, and no doubt you are getting even more of kick out of it.

    To be honest I have never been as torn trying to pick one out of three candidates, there is not much in it if you strip away the party politics which is what I try do. You would think picking one of three would be easy!

    The main reason Connolly is my number one now, is because of her legal background and previous experience as a public representative. HH I don't know, I don't trust her given her lack of Irish language improvement, but then there is the inclusivness . The Irish issue shows insincerity. Gavin, if I even vote for Gavin as the vanilla choice knowing full well he will be apolitical - not rocking the boat. What does it say about how I view Irish politics? Or the state of it.

    It did occur to me that if SF did run a candidate new and untainted by the past, I probably would have voted for them by default. So maybe SF missed a trick after all.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,073 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    I get it, you were happy when Latvia and Lithuania were part of the great Soviet empire and free from Western influence.

    The reality is that US power is diminishing and it is time for Europe to stand up. Hiding behind the coattails of the US and UK, as Ireland has been doing for decades, is no longer good enough.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,489 ✭✭✭ilkhanid


    https://www.rte.ie/news/2025/0920/1534483-dup-leader-intolerance/

    That's why I'm inclined to vote for HH: to put an upraised finger to that fella.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,290 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    I've been listening to the 'Russians are coming' for most of my life. I have watched the US UK etc talk powerful stuff about peace and democracy and do the exact opposite in reality.
    The one shining beacon has been our neutrality and our peacekeeping that our neutrality helped us do better.

    Now for a pat on the head from a country enabling a genocide we'll sell that off and still be no securer or no more under threat.
    Now more than ever we need Catherine Connolly's.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 44,249 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    I would have expected the DUP to find fault with that. They would not like it to be revealed that generally people in the Republic really don't care about one's religion or whether they were linked to an organisation such as the OO. If things appeared ok, then the DUP's following would realise that they are in fact just a bunch of bigoted liars.

    Nonetheless, you should find a better reason for electing someone other than giving a bigot the finger.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,080 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    In your last part there, Connolly is a critic of the EU as regarding their stance on Gaza which I would agree with. As the EU is supposed to promote peace. Believe it or not not long ago the EU won a nobel peace prize…

    But I get the impression that Connolly is generally lukewarm on the EU at best. And personally I would be very pro EU as it has served Ireland's practical and political interests very well over the years, as far as I can see. It is not Connolly's Russian that would make me switch, but going even more anti-EU for other reasons besides peace.

    Post edited by gormdubhgorm on

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 31,291 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Yeah, I don't particularly think she is pro-Russian. I think she is ambivalent regarding them. I do think she is anti-EU and anti-Western nations in general. And while she is sometimes correct in that viewpoint, I believe it is a distorted viewpoint generally that would cause problems were she our Nation's representative.

    Saying we can not trust France because they are increasing manufacturing of arms largely in order to supply Ukraine and contribute to European defence is, at best, completely childish.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,080 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    The problem is various Irish political strains on this island have shoehorned their own cause onto Gaza. In NI it has become shorthand for Palestine flag.Keffiyeh scarf = "look how Republican I am".

    I was at an Armagh match v Dublin this year in CP. And there seemed to be a competition between some Armagh supporters in particular as to who had the biggest Palestine flag. I joked that Palestine must be playing in the next match.

    So Connolly is only playing to the Gallery basically highlighting her Republican credentials, plays well in the border counties.

    But even Simon Harris has jumped on the Palestine train recognising the state way early on, however I got the impression it was not to show how "Republican" he is. But to steal some of SF's thunder while looking like the caring statesman.

    So Palestine/Gaza becomes shorthand for something in Irish history or by whatever political narrative any party wishes to push.

    Even the aid agency Concern has tied in the Gaza situation with Irish history in their adverts.

    So all in all it is a wise choice of the Presidential candiates to at least pay lip service to Gaza. The young vote in particular seem exercised about it, moreso than Ukraine for example. That is the impression I get.

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,110 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    Polling that says only 7% of Labour voters would vote for her …. https://redcresearch.com/runners-and-riders-for-presidential-campaign/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,080 ✭✭✭✭gormdubhgorm


    Ireland are way too small a country though to defend itself properly. And would you be willing to have cuts in Health Care. housing. social welfare etc. When the RAF already defacto defend Irish skies and the British navy would be quick to engage Russians if they did pose a threat to Ireland. As a real threat to Ireland already means a threat to the UK - Ireland being a soft underbelly of Europe etc. Sure Ireland can't even keep drugs out nevermind hypothetical invasion forces. Too much coastine to cover, and vast waters to cover.

    Is it worth all the aggro/cost for Ireland to spend lots on defence and have to result in others doing the leg work anyway?

    Then there are of course the issue on neutrality etc etc. Pardon the pun but it is a minefield.

    Connolly's approach on being anti war is grand for the time being for all those reasons. Why unnecessarily get yourself in a fight with a big dog, that you are going to lose?

    Guff about stuff, and stuff about guff.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,073 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    If you want to follow a path that we remain beholden to the UK for our defence, then we should at least align with them on foreign policy issues.

    We are hiding behind the skirts of others while having a go at those protecting us. Who protects the cables off our Western shores from the Russians? The anti-Uk and anti-US rhetoric spouted by those on the left does not do this country any favours.

    Fair enough to have a different policy to them on somewhere far away like Gaza, where it doesn't matter, but closer to home, we simply must align ourselves with our neighbours and defend the interests of Europe from the Russians, and the Chinese, to a lesser extent.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,290 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    None of that should mean we become sycophants.
    If the US or UK or anyone else deserves criticism then we should not be afraid to do that.

    That is what all the 'pro Putin' finger pointing is about, fear of incurring the wrath of the US, UK etc etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,073 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Are Estonia or Latvia sycophants?

    Are Poland, Sweden or Spain?

    What about France?

    Yes, some posters have huge hang-ups about the UK, but a mature grown-up look at the world would make you realise we need to align ourselves better with Europe and the UK and get over whatever post-colonial inferiority complex that some people have.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭harryharry25


    Republicans and Nationalists on both sides of the border have been supportive Palestine for decades

    I've seen Palestine flags at GAA and LOI grounds in Armagh, Belfast, Derry, Louth, Dublin, Cork, Galway etc etc for many years long before Oct 7th

    IMO Simon Harris has come out in support of Palestine because he knows it's the right thing to do. At the same time both FF and FG are doing everything and anything to block the OTB getting passed

    They even used it as a way to get votes pre election that they would get it done asap if re-elected. One of the many lies like housing numbers and lowering college fees (which they have increased)

    The youth are very much behind the Palestine cause and any decent human who watches the news would be too. If SF and Connolly get the young voters out she has this in the bag imo



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 734 ✭✭✭Treble double


    Gavin getting an education now on politics. What was he thinking putting his name forward for this and entering the sewer that all such campaigns are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,290 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    We need to be ourselves.

    What you want is subservience to the US UK NATO etc.

    The Irish people have said up to now they don't want that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,073 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    We are ourselves, but you want us to be Putin's puppets.

    We need to join Europe as an equal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,110 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    Part of the rumour isn't new, so he has dealt with it before as sports manager. (not that Im suggesting its in anyway true).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,290 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    We are equals in Europe.

    We don't want to join NATO and we need to have the conversations about joining any other military alliance and what it means.

    And we need to silence the scaremongers and propagandists with their 'pro Putin' bile and inability to take no for an answer.

    We as a people say No to ending neutrality and until that changes you need to respect other points of view without the toxic 'Putin's puppets' labelling.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,206 ✭✭✭.Donegal.


    Hilarious considering the orange order not only bans catholics but kicks out members who marry a catholic. Hilarious.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,870 ✭✭✭Downlinz


    Offaly doesn't nominate anyone thanks to FF & FG voting against considering anyone, that might be it for Gareth Sheridan.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,760 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Who's ending Neutrality?

    Such a prospect isn't even remotely on the horizon.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    For years I have been saying that I don't support the Palestinian cause because they are an evil terrorist people that support the murder of Israelis and the destruction of Israel.

    And for years people have said "on but you can't equate the Palestinian people with Hamas"

    As if the Palestinians were some peace loving people that just happen to be under the influence of some Islamic death cult (Hamas).

    But now candedate Connolly has come on board with my thinking

    Because she just said that "Hamas are part of the Palestinian fabric"

    Thanks candidate Connolly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭harryharry25


    Have you any links to show he has dealt with it before?

    On the issue, a big problem for Govt over these type of social media accounts is the only party in the Dail who have talked about setting up these type of anonymous accounts is Vardakar when leader of FG

    I do see the original tweeter has a tweet up saying he will post evidence the day before the election, so on that alone im calling it bullshit



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,760 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Yeah, his goose is cooked and it is under-done and crawling with salmonella.

    He needs 2 still and is only listed for a hearing at 1 other Council, Louth. The talk was, last week, that if he went up to Dundalk with 3 in the bag, that there would be heavy pressure on Louth to at least let him on the ballot and let the people decide. Now that he doesn't have that, they'll be declining him.

    Edit: He has just conceded there is no path, he's done.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,717 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


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    Another one gone



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,594 ✭✭✭✭Water John


    Gavin Duffy failing to land Meath for him.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,659 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    After getting Israel's intentions in Gaza completely and utterly wrong, its funny to see you suddenly concerned about the housing crisis which FFG caused.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,258 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    He was meant to have submitted proof of citizenship and a 300 word "why to vote for me" to Louth by Friday and didn't, so in theory they couldn't nominate him without completely replacing their pre-defined nomination process.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,110 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    Dealt as having had rumours not that he ever acknowledge them at the time.



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