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ID7 Alternative

  • 21-09-2025 02:06PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 879 ✭✭✭


    I currently have an ID7 241 on a PCP deal.


    My circumstances are changing and fully electric really won’t suit me anymore. Would anyone have guidance on what I could realistically swap into.

    I’m not that fussed about the brand if it is a nice car or crossover.


    A PHEV or self charging would be OK.


    I would be hoping the change wouldn’t cost me too much but I could probably swallow a bit if it is a good option.


    Any suggestions or recommendations would be really helpful, should I stay with VW, change brand etc?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,696 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    You might get a more favorable deal staying with VW. Tiguan PHEV maybe? Or it's cousin, the Cupra Terramar?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,232 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    Octavia or superb for non suv options

    The ID7 had a 7k price cut in the last week or so and I think youll get hammered trying to trade it in. Could be in the region of 20k drop in what you paid for it, VW can't seem to give these away at the moment.

    Is it an increase in long driving causing change in circumstances or change of accommodation?

    Hard to see how you'd do so much driving regularly that an id7 wouldn't suit to the extent of trying to get rid of it with the hit you're likely to have to take



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,401 ✭✭✭✭AMKC
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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 846 ✭✭✭amdaley28


    If you're on PCP the you would have been given a guaranteed future value on the ID7. If you're thinking of moving badges then you would be probably just handing the car keys back ?

    Since you have a 241 car I presume you are only one year into your PCP agreement. I don't know what situation arises if you hand a car back earlier ? Your dealer would be able to advise you on that.

    Maybe someone on here has experience on that ?

    Are you thinking of going PCP again ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,530 ✭✭✭MarkN


    once you’ve equity in the car the PCP cycle of 3 years or whatever doesn’t have to be adhered to. Superb would be my choice if you liked the ID.7. Would public charging really work out dearer than taking a hit?! Or do you just not want to have to sit around charging?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,270 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    What kind of spec is it? Does it have the interior or exterior pack?

    I've been in the market for a fairly priced ID7 for the last few months and I've noticed that the garages are finding them hard to move because they are refusing to price them at the market rate. I've also been keeping an eye on the auctions to see where they are in the trade. Apart from maybe three garages, they are not wanted.

    If it's a high spec model you might get €37k for it today but if it's the base model, as well appointed and all as it you are looking at €34-35k and likely less outside the VW network.

    I'd be interested in knowing what you are looking for it and what spec it has.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,943 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    Well it seems like you are going to get financially Buttfcuked and will need to suck it up. And this illustrates one of the big issues with EVs which is directly related to range, public charging etc. If your circumstances change, the car may no longer be suitable, not because it is too small etc. but because of the fuel source you chose. Bad, bad, bad if you've bought something as expensive a a new ID7 and are now forced back into a volatile market.

    The most financially prudent thing to do once you offload the ID7 would be to get a cheapish, decent used car that will do the job. E.g a 5-10 year old Octavia. But if you want to buy a new PHEV instead and restart the depreciation/PCP/"equity in my car" process, fire ahead. The financial services industry and car manufacturers will love you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 879 ✭✭✭Vudgie


    Thanks everyone.


    Sounds like a made an extremely poor purchase! Basically I will have to live somewhere which won’t have any home charger so I would be totally reliant on public charging so I was looking into a change.


    Also my job is changing significantly so I may be doing a good bit of driving which could make a fully electric car impractical.

    Hmmm I think I am mightily screwed then 🤣 but I appreciate all the input.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,232 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    Get some numbers from dealers to change into whatever you fancy then make a decision.

    Id guess you will probably find a way to make id7 work for you when you get the numbers. Its a great car to be honest youll just have to work charging into your routine, its not that difficult to be honest. If you're doing big mileage you'll be on motorways



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 879 ✭✭✭Vudgie


    yes, thanks I do like to drive it, it’s great. Maybe I’m panicking a bit and as you say if the finances don’t work I’ll have to make it work. I might investigate it with VW and see what the situation would be.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,232 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    Good luck, where theres a will theres a way. Worst time to try move away from one with the price reduction



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,270 ✭✭✭MrMusician18


    I wouldn't say that, it's a really nice car but for some reason Irish people aren't really into saloon type cars these days. I think you're also a bit unlucky in that VW have yet again decided to shaft it's existing customers by discounting new ones. That said the €7k discount is a deposit contribution and comes after a 3k price increase. Correct me if I'm wrong but these base retailed at €57k originally and moved up to 60k this year.

    You'll get a better trade in if you move now before the discount works through the market. The next few weeks are likely to be even more punishing for people that own already. A fully loaded id7 with 30k km had a hammer price of 38k at Wilson's on Tuesday. Another fully loaded one went for €36 in June. From watching DD, cars priced over €42 are not moving. There has been one sub 40k advertised and presumably sold on DD. Does your version have any extras? They tend to move easier.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,696 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    I don't think the main problem was that it is a saloon/hatchback rather than a SUV. The Passat still sold well here right up to the end of its run. The problem with the ID.7 was it's price. VW got it wrong. They now realized that and knocked 7k off them which unfortunately hammers used values of the ones they did manage to sell.

    Definitely get some cost to trade into something else numbers from dealers but I think sucking up public charging costs for a while will end up costing less than trading it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,304 ✭✭✭✭fits


    I wouldn’t preempt it if I were you op. See if you can make it work.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 726 ✭✭✭kaahooters


    im curious, how is it not sutible now, when it was before?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,232 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    Hes moving house and can't charge from new one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 726 ✭✭✭kaahooters


    can still charge on a granny charger, its more awkward, but a lot more cost effective then breaking the pcp.(unless they changed that and you can roll over costs to a new pcp?)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,232 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    Ive no idea if he can or not, not everyone can



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,230 ✭✭✭Buffman


    Don't rush into anything OP until all the details are finalised, sounds like things are still a bit fluid at the moment.

    Sounds more like they're loosing the off street driveway access otherwise they'd surely just install a charger in the 'new' accomodation.

    And if you're recommending they run extension leads and granny chargers over public paths on a long term basis, that could get very messy very quickly.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 879 ✭✭✭Vudgie


    Thanks.

    I will be moving to an apartment complex for the next 12 months that has no chargers so I would be relying on public charging all the time. Also for the next 12 months I will be doing alot of driving around the country that will be away from motorways and chargers. Unfortunately the car is just getting a bit impractical at the moment, when I bought it things were just different.

    I still wouldn't do anything rash and I will investigate what my options are but as you have all said, staying with it and using public charging might be the least painful.

    People have suggeted looking at Skoda's superb or Kodiaq, or the Santa Fe but I think these are significantly more expensive cars so it may not be viable, I think the Santa Fe is too big for me anyway. I could look at the VW Tiguan or the maybe the Tayron….just ideas.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,230 ✭✭✭Buffman


    If all that driving is work related your expenses should cover public charging costs?

    Is that new place anywhere close to a charger? Even with an old AC one you could get a good charge overnight and start out fullish everyday.

    I know someone with an ID4 as a company car who travels nationwide daily without any big issues, granted his work put in the home charger for him but big daily EV mileages aren't unheard off.

    I think an issue might be the PCP mileage limit on the car if there is one as part of the agreement? Do you think you'll be doing enough mileage to go over it?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 879 ✭✭✭Vudgie


    It may be an obvious question but why did the car sell so badly….is it just price and the general preference for crossovers and Suv's (two fairly big isues!)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,232 ✭✭✭Buddy Bubs


    Pretty much those reasons. ID4 sitting beside it in the showroom for 15k less, thats where most of the money will go.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 41,252 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gumbo


    9/10 people that walked into a VW showroom to look at annID7, walked out with an ID4 due to the pricing. And that’s the butt if it really.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 879 ✭✭✭Vudgie


    Yes I think youre right. I sat into the ID7 and I really liked it straight away.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19 M83K


    I went the other direction. I was a handshake away from buying an ID4 back in November but decided that I didn’t really love the car and would hold off until a second hand ID7 came into my price range. Picked up a second hand ID7 2 months ago.

    Some dealerships are holding firm on price and the same cars are still sitting there 2 months later. A handful are willing to negotiate and can see them selling. I’m not sure what the motivation is to hold onto a quickly depreciating asset when it is clear that other VW dealerships are selling an identical car for 3/4 k less.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,530 ✭✭✭MarkN


    and estates / saloons just aren’t as ‘fashionable’ anymore. Skoda Superb hasn’t sold like Skoda would’ve liked it to, price being a reason but design probably as much of a reason.

    ID.7 tourer with DCC has been one of the nicest EVs I’ve driven.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,361 ✭✭✭✭Cyrus


    id give it a month or two and see how you get on, as others have said its a bad time to try and get out of an ID7 due to the price drop.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,955 ✭✭✭GavMan


    You'll get creamed on the financials.

    If it was me, I'd try stick with it. Let your expenses from work pay for the public charging and just plan your routes really carefully and charge during lunches/breaks if you need to during the day.

    The car has a lot of range. Would you really be doing more than say 400km per day? Find a local fast charger and charge every night. Set off everyday with a full battery.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,175 ✭✭✭innrain


    I second this idea to give it a try for a while. I use to charge only on public networks for over 5 years. Now that I have my "own" charger I can't say I gained time. I become lazier it is true. I used to charge and do shopping when my kids were at gymnastics or sports, now I sit in the car and watch B movies on Netflix. I'm wondering what do the residents of cities like Paris or Amsterdam do? I drive over 30k km a year and if I had to go back and charge publicly I'd do it all over again. It requires some planning but I do that for a living so nothing new for me.

    For example now I'd choose the Ionity in Charlestown as my main charging spot. I pass by twice daily. elli.eco prices are 42c/kWh and 11 quid monthly. For 2500 km a month and 16kWh/100km that would cost 180 quid. A petrol alternative would be around 100 quid more expensive. A diesel would probably cost nearly the same as the EV. Better the devil I know.



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