Israel/Palestine Thread

There are mixed views on it but, for me, recognition is an essential step towards having equal status with other countries in international fora and treaties.

The Palestinian Authority supports recognition.

Palestine on Saturday welcomed Portugal’s decision to recognize the state of Palestine, calling it a “brave step” that aligns with international law and UN resolutions, Anadolu reports.

In a statement, the Foreign Ministry thanked “the countries that have announced their intention to recognize the State of Palestine,” also urging those that have not yet done so to act swiftly to safeguard a two-state solution.

It added that recognition is “vital to support international efforts for an immediate ceasefire, protection of civilians, and the launch of a political process aimed at ending the Israeli occupation and allowing the Palestinian people to exercise their right to self-determination.”

Many countries support using the 1967 borders. Israel is not defined on a map because they are intent on expansion. However that means 1948 borders could be imposed on Israel as they have not protected themselves by getting international recognition for a land border.

One would imagine that it is only the likes of Germany, Austria, Hungary and one or two others would like to keep them in UEFA. People might nearly be forgetting that there are a number of Muslim countries within the union such as Turkey, Albania, Kosovo, Azerbaijan and Bosnia, plus many others who can't stand the regime so it's difficult to see how they could win a vote if one was held.

German politicians seem to be so out of touch with the general public going by the latest polls, like quite a few countries. All support for Israel is evaporating by the month it seems.

More on the UEFA executive committee below. Is this what Benjamin meant about exclusion and dark days ahead - recognition of Palestine and very expensive players limited to domestic football :) The UEFA Executive Committee could change history.

UEFA’s executive committee is composed of 19 members and a President, Mosheu Zuares, who is coincidentally also an Israeli.

https://www.uefa.com/about/how-we-work/executive-committee/

People more qualified than you are calling what's taking place as genocide. Your opinion counts for nothing in that assessment especially given you seem to think it's perfectly normal behaviour on the part of Israel.

The only way I could see a 2-state solution working for Israel and Palestine would be if Palestine were occupied by an international force (neither Palestinian nor Israeli) that took responsibility for protecting Israel and had a mandate to use whatever force was needed against any of the Jihadis that might attack Israel.

The double standards in your posts are incredible. Why not similarly opt for an international force to police the Israeli state and use whatever force necessary against settlers who might attack Palestine?

Afterall Israeli settlers and military have done far more damage and taken far more lives than Palestinians have ever taken from Israelis. Do you accept this?

If Palestinians are all such barbarians, it is curious how invasions, occupations, mass thievery, expulsions and defacto annexations are occurring into the territory of said barbarians and not the other way around.

All of your posts are from the perspective of Israelis being the only group that matters - the protection of Palestinians, and their human rights, the crimes committed against them never factor into your narratives. Why?

UK to recognise Palestine today

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/sep/20/uk-to-recognise-palestinian-state-despite-pressure-from-us-and-families-of-hostages

Defining land borders will follow next as well as full membership of the UN rather than the current observer status. These decisions are all an indication of a rejection of the brutal genocidal behaviour of Israel. Hopefully Palestine will establish embassies in London, Paris, Canberra, Brussels, Lisbon, Ottawa etc.

Extract from Guardian newspaper article

But it allows the UK to enter treaties with Palestine and would mean that the Palestine head of mission becomes a fully recognised ambassador. Some argue that a greater onus would be placed on the UK to boycott goods imported into the UK by Israel that come from the occupied territories. But it is seen more as a statement on Palestine’s future, and disapproval of Israel’s refusal to negotiate a Palestinian state.

Full membership of the UN should follow in time with Palestine eventually rotating onto the UNSC for its term.

We should not allow opinion that supports the genocide in Gaza take hold. I think it shouldn't even be allowed in the first place, but here we are.