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Eurovision Song Contest 2026

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,809 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    And yet we are still in the competition, yet there have been very few calls for us to boycott it. Why do you think that is?

    So you're saying we should pull out of UEFA world cup qualifying because Israel are in the same competition?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 55,681 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    There are different rules for everything. I don't know if there are even rules for the Eurovision. Regardless Israel should be dumped out for committing Genocide. No country should take part with a Pariah state. BUT the people who oversee the Eurovision should just kick them out instead of waiting for individual countries to pull out. Eurovision should go ahead without Israel.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,701 ✭✭✭TheIrishGrover


    It's been decades since I watched the Eurovision but I always found it odd when the likes of Israel and Russia and Australia etc joined. I have no idea who's in it now but I always thought "W…. uh….. isn't it the EUROvision?" I mean, technically, should the UK even be in it? I know they are one of the big 5 but…. Y'know….. The B word.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,141 ✭✭✭✭AndyBoBandy


    You don’t have to be in Europe (which the U.K. most certainly still is) to be a member of the EBU.

    The competition is open to EBU members.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,809 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    There absolutely are rules for Eurovision created by the EBU. And the breaking of these rules can lead to the suspension or expulsion of a member. You will be glad to know so that technically countries don't take part in the contest, broadcasters do.

    Whatever way you look at it the Eurovision has always been politically neutral. Previous countries that have taken part during times that they were invading other countries

    • The UK and Poland during the Invasion of Iraq in 2003
    • Russia invasion of Georgia in 2008
    • Russia during their occupation of Crimea from 2014
    • Yougoslavia in 1992
    • Turkey during their retaliatory invasion of Cyprus in 1972
    • The UK during the Troubles

    So there is no real reason for the EBU to suspend or expel the Israeli broadcaster, KAN, from the Eurovision. What they can absolutely do, and should do is allow the PBC (Palestine Broadcasting Corporation) to compete

    That is correct, GB haven't gotten around to towing the island further out into the Atlantic just yet but you can be guaranteed that some are actively likely looking for tenders on tug boats



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 55,681 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    The UK were never banned afaik. Turkey left in protest and don't seem to have been banned. I think Russia was the only country banned.

    Israel should be banned for the same reason as Russia imo.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭supereurope


    Yugoslavia was banned as well. It took part in 1992 for the final time, by then it just the federation of Serbia and Montenegro. UN sanctions shortly after saw Yugoslavia banned from all cultural events, including Eurovision.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,809 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Russia were never banned, so technically they are



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,019 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    The Vuelta Espana was massively disrupted by protesters this year. I'm happy it was but also feel that cycling like the Eurovision was a soft target.

    Soccer is on such a pedestal that it would be the one to truly make an impact but also the one where associations have the most to lose so making protest sadly less likely. Isreal should be told they have to play in Asia with all the countries they fuk up but the likes of Germany won't grow a pair and kick them out of UEFA.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6 PMurphi


    What is banning Israel from the Eurovision going to actually achieve? Is there the belief out there that if Israel are booted out if it tomorrow, then the war in Gaza will stop on Sunday?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,157 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Obstensivly a boycott or removal of Isreal from Eurovision is just one of potentially many signals to the Isreali State (and their citizens) that the world at large do not want to give their actions in Gaza the sheen of normality.

    More of course can be done, but if anything is possible it should be done.

    Eurovision participation also has a degree of cultural «soft-power» at play. Isreal want to use the Competition to broadcast the image of their nation being a typical and equal member of the European family….while papering over their genocidal actions. Winning the competition also amplfies this, with the added bonus of hosting the competition becoming a chance to increase their profile to the rest of Europe. I remember Azerbaijan doing this on overdrive when Baku hosted the Eurovision.

    Isreali participation in Eurovision for me smacks of the «Sports-Washing» we’ve seen in the Gulf States over the years. Never mind the complete lack of democracy or rights…Look! We hosted a World Cup! Look! We now own the main Golf League! Look…at these sports…and not what our state is doing.

    So there is a point of banning Isreal from Eurovision and if we look back in history we have examples like the boycott of Apartheid-Era South Africa which did eventually have an impact. Eurovision is a small step, but still an important one that can help.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,282 ✭✭✭Expunge


    Great news from Moscow. The Soviet Era Intervision Song Contest is back and on this evening!

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cre5vv0x31po

    23 countries including the USA taking part.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,809 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Soccer is also one of those things that national teams and association aren't going to boycott like Eurovision or women's basketball. The double standard is actually quite sickening

    More notably, no Israel, and plenty of countries that don't recognize Israel.

    Also notable, South Africa, who started the ICJ case against Israel that we subsequently joined, are also in attendance



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 580 ✭✭✭derb12


    ^this plus the voting factor.

    They enter a not terrible/quite good song which the juries will give reasonable marks to. Then they massively manipulate the public vote and either win outright or place very well.

    Either way, the message is : there is tremendous support for Israel out there, just look what the real people think!

    In sports events they cannot manipulate success.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,720 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Hopefully they leave them in it and they win it.

    That would shut the Hamas flag wavers up.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 11,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭squonk


    Spend a week in Gaza and come back here then and see if you still want to make a comment like that. It’s easy be jingoistic when you’ve food in your belly and you can go home to your house tonight and it’ll still be there. You’re living in a country where there was a terrorist issue and our nearest neighbours bore the brunt of it. They reacted to defend themselves yet didn’t resort to invasion, genocude and colonisation. Why are you in Galway? Israel would seem to be where you’d be happiest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,069 ✭✭✭mulbot


    Russia is in Europe. Also the UK is in Europe, you're mixing up the EU with Europe.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,720 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    2026 eurovision in Israel.

    Its going to be fantastic.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭supereurope


    On the BBC website today, worth a read:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cre5vv0x31po.amp



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 55,681 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    It for the reason that Israel is committing Genocide. Countries do not want to be associated with other countries that commit War Crimes.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 55,681 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Yes indeed. They are going to call it '' The Genocide Song Contest ''. It will include the US, Israel and Russia and no other country. The interval will consist of photos of children missing limbs, bombed ambulances and hospitals and a parade of IDF soldiers telling everyone hot the murdered two people with one shot. You should go.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,690 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    There are suggestions in the media that Israel could be banned from all competitions by UEFA very soon (many football federations telling the leadership in private they have no wish to play against their teams and want Israel suspended at a minimum). Definitely not the case that Eurovision is an outlier here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,042 ✭✭✭supereurope


    I suspect, like with Russia, it'll be like dominoes…once one international organisation makes the move, others will follow.

    And just like with Russia, it's a bad look for the EBU if an organisation like UEFA, a body hardly known for its integrity, leads the way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,690 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    A particularly bad element of this for the Israelis is that Qatar Airways are one of the main sponsors of UEFA. To the best of our knowledge, the (very real) Zionist lobby don't appear to have much of a hold over UEFA, which makes their position very dicey.



  • Site Banned Posts: 4,164 ✭✭✭Oíche Na Gaoithe Móire


    Austria won last year, it'll be in Vienna, if on at all.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭harryharry25


    A vote is due to be held at a UEFA meeting on Tuesday

    Going by reports from some sports media, Israel and UEFA know they are going to lose out in any vote and as a result Israel are trying to get the vote stopped

    Spains president has said they should refuse to play in the world cup if Israel qualifys, but thankfully they don't look like they will qualify (if they arnt removed)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,157 ✭✭✭Rawr


    Sticktly speaking, geographically, Isreal should be a member of the AFC:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asian_Football_Confederation?wprov=sfti1

    With the notable exceptions of Cyprus and Armenia, who are also technically in Asia, Isreal are notable as a figurative island of UEFA membership on the Asian mainland.

    I could argue that they really should be AFC members to match their immediate neighbours…but of course that would then highlight why the Isrealis try to focus their cultural and sports links to Europe instead. Their neigbours, and many states in Asia hate them.

    A very large cohort of AFC members would likely boycott them too. But I feel that is an important point. Isreal should not get to generate a fantasy where they can pretend that they are an island of Europe in the Middel East, while ignoring the humanity of the peoples around them. They have to learn to be good neighbours with all of the peoples around them regardless of race or religion and not roll in the IDF whenever they damned please. They can enjoy the dividends of peace such as sports leagues once they learn how to be peaceful.

    Letting a state like Isreal pretend to be European is giving them the means of having their cake and eating it too. They should be made to understand that they are a Middle Eastern nation, and that they should try to actually get along with the part of the world they actually live in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,809 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Israel were members of the Asian conference from 1954 until 1974, when it was kicked out because Arabs didn't want to play against them.

    When it comes to Eurovision we have had entries from Azerbaijan, Morocco and even Australia

    In any case, calling for a boycott of women's basketball, Eurovision and any other minor sports is great and all but if we want to make maximum impact the FAI needs to pull out of the nations league, the euros and the world cup until Israel are kicked out



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 96,283 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    Russia created their own song contest when they couldn't enter Eurovision.

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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intervision_2025 Trump's USA entered. Only European's who went there were Serbia and Belorussia.

    Apparently the Aussies stopped the US singer attending because she has dual nationality).



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  • Site Banned Posts: 4,164 ✭✭✭Oíche Na Gaoithe Móire


    I was watching the RTE Record Show. A piece on anti apartheid marches in Ireland during the South African rugby tour in 1969/70, was on.

    I was surprised to hear South Africa were banned from the Tokyo 1964 Olympics because of apartheid. Fair play to the IOC. And to think that was tame compared to the Gaza genocide. Israel and its privileged position in the World, and its powerful backers, is just hard to comprehend.



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