Charlie Kirk.

Bigmac1euro · 17-09-2025 04:36PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123825127#Comment_123825127

since when does it take a political science expert to understand which way someone might lean?

Do you class yourself as a political science expert?

Yeah Right · 17-09-2025 04:37PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123825184#Comment_123825184

Told ya the goalposts would be moved.

You said he never said those things and demanded proof. You refused to believe it.

Once proof was provided, you're changing your tune to 'oh, that's not what he meant, it's out of context, he was joking"

He said it. It doesn't matter if it's 5 seconds or whatever he also said in the video, he still said it. You might think it's in jest, but I disagree and there are plenty of people living that reality. The entire American religious sector (some might say Christianity as a whole) is built around keeping women quiet and subservient. Hiding behind the 'good old family values' screen doesn't change anything.

It was a scummy thing to say, which is exactly what you asked people to provide. Now that it has been provided, you're refusing to accept it.

This is why I refused to provide links to the other stuff, because it doesn't matter what is put up, you and the rest of his fanclub will break your backs trying to twist out of the hole you've just dug.

Did you even watch the other videos?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123825192#Comment_123825192

You debunked SFA. You shifted the goalpost on one video and refused to even acknowledge the other 5. You are a charlatan and a spoofer.

markodaly · 17-09-2025 04:39PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123825189#Comment_123825189

Well, he killed Kirk for as he said in his own words, "Hateful views"
He was clearly radicalised by left-ish thinking.

Yeah Right · 17-09-2025 04:42PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123825165#Comment_123825165

More shifting of the goalposts……….

We've gone from "He never said that" to "He didn't really mean those words" in the space of 15 minutes.

Azza · 17-09-2025 04:43PM

Gotta love this anti-DEI rhetoric coming from the MAGA crowd, yet at the same time we are expected to believe RFK Junior is qualified to be health secretary.

Akrasia · 17-09-2025 04:47PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123824696#Comment_123824696

I don't have time to give you all of the examples. He basically spent all of his professional life spreading hateful fascistic white supremacist christian nationalism…..

But here are some examples he called for violence against immigrants at the Mexican border
He was a proponent of 'the great replacement theory' a fascist supremacist ideology.

He said 'Prowling blacks' go around 'targetting white people'
He was extremely christian conservative, opposing abortion even for pre-teen rape victims
He said only white christians are capable of leading a free country
He was anti semitic, "

Jewish donors have been the Number 1 funding mechanism of radical, open border, neoliberal, quasi-Marxist policies ... this is a beast created by secular Jews, and now it's coming for Jews."
He has strongly supported deporting critics of trump including Omar and Hasan

“The great replacement strategy, which is well under way every single day in our southern border, is a strategy to replace white rural America with something different.”
— The Charlie Kirk Show, 1 March 2024

“America was at its peak when we halted immigration for 40 years and we dropped our foreign-born percentage to its lowest level ever. We should be unafraid to do that.”
— The Charlie Kirk Show, 22 August 2025

“The American Democrat party hates this country. They wanna see it collapse. They love it when America becomes less white.”
— The Charlie Kirk Show, 20 March 2024

“On Islam: America has freedom of religion, of course, but we should be frank: large dedicated Islamic areas are a threat to America.”
— The Charlie Kirk Show, 30 April 2025

“We’ve been warning about the rise of Islam on the show, to [a] great amount of backlash. We don’t care, that’s what we do here. And we said that Islam is not compatible with western civilization.”
— The Charlie Kirk Show, 24 June 2025

“There is no separation of church and state. It’s a fabrication, it’s a fiction, it’s not in the constitution. It’s made up by secular humanists.”
— The Charlie Kirk Show, 6 July 2022

“This is a Christian state. I’d like to see it stay that way.”
— Speech in Georgia at a Trump event, date in 2024

“We need to have a Nuremberg-style trial for every gender-affirming clinic doctor. We need it immediately.”
— The Charlie Kirk Show, 1 April 2024

“I think it’s worth it to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God-given rights. That is a prudent deal. It is rational.”
— TPUSA Faith event, 5 April 2023

“America was at its peak when we halted immigration for 40 years and we dropped our foreign-born percentage to its lowest level ever. We should be unafraid to do that.”
— The Charlie Kirk Show, 22 August 2025

“The American Democrat party hates this country. They wanna see it collapse. They love it when America becomes less white.”
— The Charlie Kirk Show, 20 March 2024

“Islam is the sword the left is using to slit the throat of America.”
— Social media post (X/Twitter), 8 September 2025

“There is no separation of church and state. It’s a fabrication, it’s a fiction, it’s not in the constitution. It’s made up by secular humanists.”
— The Charlie Kirk Show, 6 July 2022

“On Islam: America has freedom of religion, of course, but we should be frank: large dedicated Islamic areas are a threat to America.”
— The Charlie Kirk Show, 30 April 2025

“We’ve been warning about the rise of Islam on the show, to [a] great amount of backlash. We don’t care, that’s what we do here. And we said that Islam is not compatible with western civilization.”
— The Charlie Kirk Show, 24 June 2025

“Joe Biden is bumbling, dementia-filled, Alzheimer’s, corrupt tyrant who should honestly be put in prison and/or given the death penalty for his crimes against America.”
— The Charlie Kirk Show, 4 July 2023

“Three weeks ago, Blake, if we would have said that Joy Reid and Michelle Obama and Sheila Jackson Lee and Ketanji Brown Jackson were affirmative action picks, we would have been called a [rolling r] rrracist. ... But now they're coming out and they're saying it for us. They're coming out, and they're saying, ‘I'm only here because of Affirmative Action.’ Yeah, we know. You do not have the brain processing power to otherwise be taken really seriously. You had to go steal a white person’s slot to go be taken somewhat seriously.”
— Source: Media Matters for America, 2023

“All men are created equal in the eyes of God, all men and women, but not all cultures are created equal. To say that, you get attacked in every direction, but excuse me when I say that Western civilization is the best that humanity has produced. It’s an outgrowth of the Bible.”
— Speech, 2023

“One of the reasons we’re living through a constitutional crisis is that we no longer have a Christian nation, but we have a Christian form of government, and they’re incompatible. You cannot have liberty if you do not have a Christian population.”
— 2024

“They wanna see it collapse. They love it when America becomes less white.”

“The ‘Great Replacement’ is not a theory, it’s a reality.”

“Democrats can no longer be pro-America. They stand against the people, against the flag, against the faith, against the family.”

Retr0gamer · 17-09-2025 04:50PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123825246#Comment_123825246

Theres links to multiple studies conducted by businesses in that link if you would look.

So basically that's a no from you. Sounds like you haven't a clue how to do actual research and are just gullible for right wing nonsense.

scottser · 17-09-2025 04:54PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123825260#Comment_123825260

What exactly is 'leftist thinking'? It seems convenient for you to be as vague as possible in the hope you might accidentally hit on a 'wokeism'.

We know that:

1. He likes guns

2. Was brought up by a proMAGA family

3. Is Christian

4. May or may not be dating a trans woman.

5. Recognised and called out Kirk's many hypocrisies.

6. Played violent video games.

So is his trans partner the big gotcha for you? Either way, having a non-binary partner does not follow that the workers should own the means of production in order to ensure the equitable distribution of the world's resources.

RoyalCelt · 17-09-2025 04:55PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123825238#Comment_123825238

From Google.

"The Fourth Amendment was created to protect people from arbitrary government intrusions, a direct response to the British Crown's use of "general warrants" and "writs of assistance" in the American colonies. These unchecked search powers allowed British officials to search homes and seize property without cause, which was seen as a violation of fundamental English rights and inspired the American colonists to guarantee security from unreasonable searches and seizures in the newly formed United States. "

You could argue for no guns or an Irish model but at the end of the day as long as Americans vote to keep guns that's their right and it means in America they are literally right according to the constitution to have them. It's very simple.

If enough change their mind they'll make an amendment.

Bigmac1euro · 17-09-2025 04:55PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123825168#Comment_123825168

That is correct. That is his mother. That is not the person who technically decapitated an innocent man in front of his children. That would be her son which is also the person we are discussing. The son who leaned left and took radical action into his own hands against someone who leaned right. A person whose words he disagreed with.

how far would you have to go to be considered left for her.

well being homosexual

Having a trans lover

And killing a staunch republican with a sniper might help.

z80CPU · 17-09-2025 04:56PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123825249#Comment_123825249

There's a rash of those Self Appointed " experts " lately here bigmac!

Toranaga · 17-09-2025 05:18PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123825249#Comment_123825249

I don't but I have done university modules in politics.

When you say left leaning, what does that mean? In support of high taxes? Seize the means of production? What left wing ideology is there evidence of?

sprucemoose · 17-09-2025 05:21PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123824659#Comment_123824659

those debates are a perfect example of how out of his depth he was against opponents with any semblance of skill rather than random students

markodaly · 17-09-2025 05:27PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123825300#Comment_123825300

Clearly, we are not talking about the left v right version of what economic policies we should follow, laissez-faire vs Keynesian…

In this context, it's about the left v right on the social policies and culture war that surrounds it.

So yeah, given that 'leftists' would agree that Kriks' views are hateful, they share the same ideas of Tyler Robinson in that regard.

humberklog · 17-09-2025 05:28PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123825361#Comment_123825361

Oh man, that first line made me laugh so hard. Thanks…really.

I've nothing more to add to the discussion before you ask.

markodaly · 17-09-2025 05:33PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123825239#Comment_123825239

There are some examples of supporters of BLM spouting overtly anti-white racist language.

Example.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/yusra-khogali-twitter-the-star-1.3529105

On Feb. 9, Yusra Khogali tweeted, "Plz Allah give me strength to not cuss/kill these men and white folks out here today. Plz plz plz."

That is from the co-founder of BLM. Pretty damming tbh.

Now, is that to say the entire organisation is anti-white? Most likely not, but they do attract a few loopers..

charlie14 · 17-09-2025 05:43PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123825085#Comment_123825085

Rather than these imaginary conversations you are having in your own head with Governor Cox, Robinson`s family and his friends you would be better off by at least making an attempt to read what was actually posted.

I was not claiming he was far right. I was pointing out that if some believe that being gay or in a relationship with someone who is transitioning make you a radical hardcore left-wing zealot, there are organized groups, not just on the hardcore right but on the center right, who have no problem with either.

I take it those direct quotes you refer to are those you privately know from your conversations with Governor Cox, Robinson`s family and his friends that for some unknown reason you are unable to share with the rest of us ?

Robinson comes from a hardcore MAGA family. That is the one thing we know from his grandmother`s interview and from Robinson`s own text messages that is incontestable. Is it so inconceivable for you to see how coming from that family, as well as them being members of the Mormon faith, that just being in a relationship with a transitioning male would be looked on as "leaning left" ?

scuba8 · 17-09-2025 05:44PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123825115#Comment_123825115

This is a very simple example of his support for white supremacists.

ilkhanid · 17-09-2025 05:45PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123825165#Comment_123825165

Yawn. Getting tired of MAGA apologists and supporters continually claiming that these things are "taken out of context" as if hearing even more of this reactionary crap will make change the meaning of what is perfectly clear to start with. Just more hairsplitting, excuses and special pleading like that of the MAGA idiots who hang on Trump's every word shouting that "he didn't say that!" or "he didn't mean what you said he meant" and "he was only joking" and so on. It smells of people without the guts to take ownership of their own extreme views.

ilkhanid · 17-09-2025 05:47PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123825172#Comment_123825172

Point? That the apple didn't fall far from the tree.

Yeah Right · 17-09-2025 05:48PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123825304#Comment_123825304

And killing a staunch republican with a sniper might help.

Like the Republican who tried to shoot Trump?…………………is he a leftie using this logic?

scuba8 · 17-09-2025 05:52PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123825172#Comment_123825172

The point being he could still actually be right wing and she would think he is left wing because of her extreme views.

Sudden Valley · 17-09-2025 05:55PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123825393#Comment_123825393

you can be in the centre with a mix of right and left views and find some of what Kirk said hateful. Why do you have dumb everything down to a binary left vs right paradigm?

Sudden Valley · 17-09-2025 05:56PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123825435#Comment_123825435

But according to some here- if you hated what he did supporting Rittenhouse this makes you a leftist. God forbid there is more nuance to people's politics.

10000maniacs · 17-09-2025 05:58PM

Any group who gives this guy a minute's silence anywhere is making a mockery of human rights, Race equality, Gender equality, age equality. This guy was an idiot with a big mouth. And now we won't hear him anymore. Phew.

RoyalCelt · 17-09-2025 05:59PM

One of the most important men on the planet has just retweeted our very own Ben Scallans take on this.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1968310476246511778?t=S6WqJp5bfFqg1hGFxUQzVA&s=19

His second follow up tweet.

https://twitter.com/Ben_Scallan/status/1968218255765418426?t=DPA-yzznu6mIVXjSEZttVw&s=19

He was a special individual. Cool, calm and collected in the face of verbal aggression and bad faith arguments. This is why he was so successful. He went into the wolf's den, ran the gauntlet and came out the other side.

I feel like our own MSM journalists are completely wide of the mark on their Charlie takes but Ben has hit the nail on the head.

As a wise man once said, prove me wrong.

alan partridge aha · 17-09-2025 05:59PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123825435#Comment_123825435

In late August 2020, 17-year-old Rittenhouse traveled from Antioch, Illinois, to Kenosha, Wisconsin, to help protect local businesses, after there were protests following the shooting of Jacob Blake by a police officer. On August 25, 2020, Rittenhouse was armed with an AR-15 style rifle and shot three men during the civil unrest in Kenosha.[9][10] Photographic evidence reveals that prior to unrest unfolding, Rittenhouse and others had participated in cleaning graffiti from a high school close to the Kenosha County Courthouse.[11][12]

After a man named Joseph Rosenbaum chased and cornered Rittenhouse in a dealership parking lot and grabbed the barrel of his rifle, Rittenhouse fatally shot him, soon after Joshua Ziminski had fired a shot nearby.[13][14][15] Rittenhouse fled and was pursued by a crowd. He fatally shot a second man, Anthony Huber, who struck Rittenhouse with a skateboard and tried to grab his rifle in a brief struggle.[9][16][17] Afterwards, Gaige Grosskreutz approached Rittenhouse and pointed a pistol at him. Rittenhouse shot and wounded Grosskreutz in the right arm.[18][19]

`Criminal trial`

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At a criminal trial in Kenosha in November 2021, prosecutors argued that Rittenhouse was seen as an active shooter and had provoked the other participants. Defense lawyers argued that he had acted in self-defense,[20] stating that he had used force necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself.[a]

A jury weighed two counts of homicide, one count of attempted homicide, and two counts of reckless endangerment, and found Rittenhouse not guilty on all charges.

charlie14 · 17-09-2025 06:03PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123825091#Comment_123825091

Again, rather than a childish little Gotchya you should at least make an effort to read what was posted.

I said I had no problem with the note, but I believed that Patel with his quote that what the note said was uncovered by the FBI " aggressive interview posture" when even your own personal friend Governor Cox and everyone else was saying that the roommate was fully and willingly co-operating with the investigation, that along with his no evidence of Epstein being involved in sex trafficking when Ghislaine Maxwell has been found guilt of sex trafficking and sentenced to 20 years in prison, by association did little for the credibility of the FBI, a Bureau where Patel is the Director.

Hamsterchops · 17-09-2025 06:04PM

Wonder will Tyler's boyfriend end up in the slammer? Two delusional idiots living in a parallel universe. Tyler is obviously in very dangerous territory with his life literally on the line, but what about his roommate in the animal costume?

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scuba8 · 17-09-2025 06:08PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123825484#Comment_123825484

Just to be fair about Kirk he wasn’t the only one celebrating white supremacy:

Here is another one.

Charlie Kirk.

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Criminal trial

`Criminal trial`