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Presidential Election.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭harryharry25


    Jim Gavin outside the FF think in today said the Housing issue has been raised with him by voters over the last few days, and the Govt have not "been good enough" and "needs to be improved"

    Not 1 journalist asked him why would he want to run for a party who in his eyes have not "been good enough" to deal with what they say is the number 1 issue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,636 ✭✭✭jmcc


    It can be fixed. It is not in the interests of the traditionally large parties to fix it just as they want to keep the Aras for themselves.

    Remember the eVoting debacle and the "experts" in FF/PD claiming that it was secure? A paper sticker on the eVoting machine was the "security". It even had articles in the legacy media from people with no expertise in hacking extolling the system. Would you trust these people to fix the electoral register?

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,395 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    Galway and Longford decline to nominate a candidate. Can't see Dublin City Council agreeing to nominate one either.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,463 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    Michael Lehane saying Lowry's group of councillors are not supporting any Independent councillors tmw, that dents Gareth Sheridans' hopes.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,767 ✭✭✭plodder


    There was a councillor from Laois on the radio this evening whinging that Laois co council didn't nominate Gareth Sheridan. She checked him out and thinks he's a great guy (which is fantastic!) though it's a disgrace apparently that the parties "blocked" him. Unbelievable stuff. If people think the process should be changed so that individual councillors should get to nominate candidates for the presidency then they should campaign to change the constitution in that regard. In the meantime, councillors will continue to filter out the people they don't think are entitled to be on the ballot

    “The opposite of 'good' is 'good intentions'”



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  • Site Banned Posts: 4,164 ✭✭✭Oíche Na Gaoithe Móire




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,395 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    The whole thing was a waste of time.

    FF/FG have majority control of most councils. Why go through the charade of having candidates speak when everyone will be rejected?

    DL-Rathdown probably had the right idea. They voted to not bother with the whole exercise, which saved a lot of people's time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,885 ✭✭✭Downlinz


    It's a duty as a councillor to propose relevant candidates which serve the interests of their constituents. We all know what the FF & FG councillors are doing here but to not even hear the pitches is being mask-off that they're not even considering constituents in the matter. At least after hearing them they can claim they were given due consideration and just weren't up to standard so the locals can rest easy that their councillor is working for them and absolutely isn't blindly following orders from HQ.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    They're politically educated people. It ain't hard to work out that there are sod all decent candidates seeking a nomination so why bother listening to them? There's no obligation and it's a waste of public time and money.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,885 ✭✭✭Downlinz


    That was also the case in the past when Dana (twice), Derek Nally and a trio of chancers from Dragons Den presented themselves before the councils and it didn't stop them receiving multiple nominations.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,395 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    The last thing FF/FG want is a fourth candidate on the ballot paper. They already have two out of the three and likely have the winner between them as their two candidates will transfer between eachother strongly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,823 ✭✭✭✭kippy


    I can't see there being any major appetite to put the work in to change the constitution to improce this situation. It's an even that happens usually every seven years, effects very very few people and why would the big players want this changed? The population in general don't give much of a toss about the presidency (in reality) and not enough of them would lobby for this type of thing to happen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,391 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    Was he not aware of the housing issue until some voters said it to him?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,395 ✭✭✭✭Francie Barrett


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123820617#Comment_123820617

    A country fella like Jim Gavin who's busy working the land isn't going to be familiar with the struggles of young people in modern urban life 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,196 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Derek Nally had a good public service career in AGS behind him as well as a record of voluntary work not to mention his business experience.

    Dana was a credible candidate in her first candidacy coming third. By her second attempt she was a fully fledged politician having served a full term as an MEP.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,165 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    My sympathies to the unfortunate reporter who drew the short straw of having to report on the cranks pitching to DCC yesterday



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Your desperation to do Jim Gavin down at every turn is palpable. Laughable.

    What are you running scared of?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 79,472 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Says the lad currently having a go at a woman on another thread because of how she looks.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    That is about the 20th time this week alone that you have misrepresented a comment by me or some other poster.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,767 ✭✭✭plodder


    Hopefully that might put an end to the debate as to whether any old Tom, Dick or Dolores should be put on the ballot, just becoz ..

    And there's no guarantee it would improve the situation. Everyone wants the process to be tweaked to favour themselves or their guy.

    I find this argument that councils should nominate candidates "so that the people can decide" without taking a position themselves on the person, a bit disrespectful towards their own office and even the constitution itself. It's a two stage process with two defined hurdles to clear. That's really all I was referring to by saying that instead of whining about the process, they should try to change it then.

    “The opposite of 'good' is 'good intentions'”



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Packrat


    So as I predicted, the bould Jim is only going to do one term as per his agreement, leaving the field clear for Slippery Micky next time.

    Jesus but we're one banana state if we allow this type of blatant sharing out of the spoils..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,128 ✭✭✭harryharry25


    I'm just posting that Jim said FF and the Govt are failing at housing and havnt done enough.

    I'm on record as saying if it came down to Jim and Heather I hope Jim wins but he seems like a disaster so far, especially in front of the camera which is no surprise to any GAA fan



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 671 ✭✭✭Marcos


    That's another thing, the fact that there are 500,000 more people on the electoral roll in 11 constituencies is a worry. Now if one was to think that this was an electoral threat to the establishment parties this would be fixed overnight.

    When most of us say "social justice" we mean equality under the law opposition to prejudice, discrimination and equal opportunities for all. When Social Justice Activists say "social justice" they mean an emphasis on group identity over the rights of the individual, a rejection of social liberalism, and the assumption that unequal outcomes are always evidence of structural inequalities.

    Andrew Doyle, The New Puritans.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 671 ✭✭✭Marcos


    All points that the all party oireachtas committee examined and considered. Obviously they thought that having a more open nomination process, and the requirement to have ten thousand citizens nominate them would stop "cranks and timewasters" as you put it. Plus they would be given their answer by the electorate if they even got nominated. All political campaigns cost money.

    When most of us say "social justice" we mean equality under the law opposition to prejudice, discrimination and equal opportunities for all. When Social Justice Activists say "social justice" they mean an emphasis on group identity over the rights of the individual, a rejection of social liberalism, and the assumption that unequal outcomes are always evidence of structural inequalities.

    Andrew Doyle, The New Puritans.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Those experiences have made the councils more cautious. I'd prefer more than three candidates on the slate but there's got to be some semblance of presidential quality and awareness of the role. None of your aforementioned have that, nor those recently putting themselves forward to councils.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,767 ✭✭✭plodder


    I'd say there won't be a cow milked in Clondalkin for the week after, if he's elected.

    “The opposite of 'good' is 'good intentions'”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,185 ✭✭✭Polar101


    So far we know he has visited a farm at least once, and has heard there is a housing crisis. Not sure if that would make him a good president.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,289 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    He was a military pilot and a football manager. Nothing you'd think that would qualify him to be president.

    Doubt he has a snowballs anyway.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,391 ✭✭✭✭Grayson


    I'm really disappointed by the candidates this time. Heather Humphreys who isn't sure what she should be saying. A football manager and has that tech bro got the votes yet? I mentioned ages ago in some other thread that there's always some businessman that thinks, "I made some money, I should be president". And yep, we got one this time.

    The presidency doesn't involve a lot. They're basically the face of the country in certain circumstances. And we've been lucky that our last few have been dignified, articulate people which a history of campaigning for civil/human rights.



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  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 13,206 Mod ✭✭✭✭miamee


    Sheridan has the backing of two councils, he needs two more. He has Kerry and Tipperary.



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