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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,357 ✭✭✭✭looksee


    Another potential outcome from the idiocy - the National Guard could find people resigning in droves - there is extreme discontent, as shown in the 'leaked'/accidentally emailed document to the Washington Post that was supposed to go to the Pentagon. That 'accident' is a reflection of how annoyed the NG members are. They are, presumably, for the most part well-intentioned people with day jobs are being mocked and derided, sitting around doing nothing, and picking litter. Why would they stick around? There was a bit of video of a group of NG being followed around by someone playing the Star Wars theme, which is superficially funny, but its not what they signed up for, unlike ICE - who appear to be making way more money for their disguised thuggery.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,650 ✭✭✭swampgas


    Yeah, I know you're trolling, but isn't "Free Speech" supposed to be something you are in favour of? Guess the right can't take a joke/criticism.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,580 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    When your "opinion" is based merely on your own wishful thinking and it goes against a consensus of "we don't know for certain" because of the tiny scraps of information that's available, then it's time to start analysing why it is you're so certain you're correct when the vast majority of others remain unsure because of the paucity of genuine evidence.

    It might serve you better to engage in some introspection on what it is you actually know about this case before coming on here every day and ranting like a deranged lunatic who's simply dying to place the blame on a group of people you don't even know, but you've convinced yourself you hate.

    The fact of the matter is this, none of us know much of anything about this case and nobody knows the motive of the shooter either. All we do know is that he was from a conservative, Trump supporting, religious, family that had a penchant for guns and he shared a house with someone who might possibly be trans, although we know nothing of the nature of that "relationship". He was also steeped in the poison that is 4chan internet meme bullshit and was a fan of the far right commentator, Nick Fuentes and this "groyper" nonsense.

    And even then, some of that information may be flawed and shown to be in error later on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,631 ✭✭✭FAILSAFE 00


    Freedom of speech not freedom from consequences.

    I think it highlighted how so many young adults are being radicalised.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,619 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Same poster today..

    "Some great videos online of lefties getting fired for their horrible remarks/celebrations"

    Not an ounce of self awareness....

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,932 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    Just to be clear, you support the consequences that occur from someone's actions?

    Do feel free to post those videos and the follow up firings.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,438 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I wonder if they'd agree with what happened to people like Graham Linehan when his toxic views and behaviour meant nobody wanted to work with him.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,009 ✭✭✭Hamsterchops


    Nothing toxic about Grahams views, as he's been proven 100% right. From the release of the WPATH files to the Cass Review, to the FWS triumph in the high Court this April, Graham is right bless him, and he's had to put up with all the **** crap from those sick activists.

    You can hear the damage in his voice. They almost broke him, poor fella.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,432 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    To put that lie in context of the actual truth , according to the CDC about 80,000 people died of an overdose in the US last year , down from about 110k the year before.

    And globally the WHO puts the annual overdose/drug related deaths at about 600k.

    Compare that with the 2.6 MILLON that died as a result of excessive alcohol consumption.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,432 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Will Brian Kilmeade get fired from Fox for saying that the homeless and the mentally ill should just be euthanised???

    Will that be a "great watch" or is it only when people you don't like say something you disagree with??

    And to be clear , what Kilmeade said is orders of magnitude worse than what that NBC guy got fired for when he basically said "Charlie Kirk said a lot of bad thing in the past".

    Imagine if an Irish or UK TV News Anchor said "Let's just kill them all" ?????



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,619 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


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    Mr. President once again using Federal House appropriated money as a threat.

    In a normal world, he would be impeached and removed. But standards are so f**king low that this sh1t just breezes on by.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,720 ✭✭✭fly_agaric


    You were posting about the garda and their shooting practice earlier I think.

    If you are a blow-in in Ireland, you should try and disconnect from the US political scene and their culture wars somewhat, for your benefit, and more importantly for ours!

    Before he was murdered, I would say an extremely small number of people in this country knew who Charlie Kirk was. Never heard of him (and I probably do follow US politics more than is healthy).

    It is bad enough we have the US owned social media hypodermics injecting their horrible poisons into us daily, we may also have their refugees bringing strange and dangerous ideas + unresolved culture wars baggage from home into the country with them!

    Per your own King himself (on immigrants), the US possibly "isn't sending its best" at times unfortunately!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,650 ✭✭✭swampgas


    I guess as Charlie Kirk simply experienced the consequences of his speech, that's okay with you then?
    As for young adults, has it ever occurred to you that you sound pretty radicalised yourself?



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,432 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    What's the surprise ?

    That he said it , or that there is zero evidence available to support that statement whatsoever?

    Given that it's coming from the guy who said he spent 33hrs praying that the perpetrator "wasn't one of us" , I'll take anything coming from him with a giant handful of salt.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,635 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    There was a piece on the RTE news around from Sean Whelan where he said it took an hour driving around Washington to even find any of these troops. Seems he could have saved himself and his crew time had he just looked in the nearest park for rubbish collectors and tree mulchers that are costing a reputed $1 million a day.

    It could be argued I suppose that is what Trump envisaged in his plan to clean up Washington. I wouldn`t be overly surprised to hear Karoline Leavitt come up with that one of these days. In fainess it would not be the most inane comment she has come out with.



  • Site Banned Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/15/trump-advocates-that-companies-stop-reporting-earnings-on-a-quarterly-basis-.html

    Ahahahahaha

    So first nationalisation of companies national socialist style

    now he doesn’t want regular capitalistic reporting every quarter



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,635 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    What have been the consequence for Brian Kilmeade of that rat hole Fox News so beloved by MAGA from his comment last Wednesday of "Involuntary lethal inection or something. Just kill them" when talking about the homeless.

    Is that the free speech you believe should not have consequences ?



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,432 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Whilst there is something to be said about empowering companies to not slavishly focus on 90 day performance cycles to the detriment of long term plans etc. the reason Trump wants this is so he can hide the failures of his policies.

    If companies aren't reporting results every quarter , people won't be able to see how bad things are as easily.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭Stanley 1


    Eric must becoming under pressure cooking the books at highly leveraged Trump Inc., sees a saving to be made in accounting costs, his old man will believe anything he says.



  • Site Banned Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    There must be some awful results in pipeline as report season is about to start again



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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,432 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    As a private company , they don't have to publish results publicly and even if they did ,with what could be at best referred to as a labyrinthine corporate structure getting a clear picture of the truth would be challenging to say the least.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 45,610 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    I forsee loads of senior civil servants being deposed

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,367 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    By Trump or a House Committee? Roll on the next edition of WSJ.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,631 ✭✭✭FAILSAFE 00


    So are you saying that people should be murdered for have different political opinions?

    We have watched and rightfully enjoyed lefties getting fired for celebrating someone being assassinated.

    Universities in the U.S need to be investigated to get to the root of this far left radicalisation.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,432 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Just going to ignore the fact that one of Trumps favourite Fox News presenters said that Homeless people and those with mental health issues should be given a lethal injection.. "Just kill them" ????

    Not vocally condemning that removes any moral high-ground you think you might hold here.

    No one should be murder for having a different opinion , that is never acceptable.

    However recognising that people who have made a career of spewing racism , misogyny and Anti-Islamic bile might have made themselves a target for people that think that violence is the answer isn't "celebrating their death" , it's recognising the reality of the world they participated in the creation of.

    We've also had the President excuse right-wing violence as justified because "they hate to see what's happening in their country" - How do you think a "violence inclined" person is going to interpret that - They are going to see that as permission to proceed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,857 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Poor excuse there, much like every one of your "opinions".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,812 ✭✭✭MoodeRator


    Can someone PLEASE explain to me what this "far left radicalisation" actually means and entails? Especially in terms of the current political status in the US. It is a term I see used so often lately but I am struggling to make sense of it without any context offered.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,432 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Basically ,anyone that disagrees with Trump..

    There is no logic around the whole left/right thing in the US.

    Basically , you either worship Trump or you are the enemy - Depending on who is talking and the phase of the mood ,you'll get called "far left" , "Communist" , "Socialist" , "Radical left" and a whole other laundry list of utterly inappropriate labels.

    The actual viewpoints or policies don't matter - Disagree with Trump even slightly about anything and you'll get labelled an "enemy of the state"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,857 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    So are you saying that people should be murdered for have different political opinions?

    Freedom of speech not freedom from consequences.

    The consistency here is baffling.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,650 ✭✭✭swampgas


    No. I was taking your own point about consequences and applying it to Charlie Kirk, in an attempt to illustrate a point.

    When the right claim free speech is protected (and often this means hate speech against minorities), they assume they can say what they like without consequences. Because it's "just words", apparently. Cruel, vicious slurs, or lies about (say) Sandy Hook, or the holocaust, or whatever. All just words, ha ha ha, watch the libs get triggered. That's Free Speech.

    But when anyone else dares to say something that is critical or offensive to them, suddenly it's okay for people to lose their jobs and for the consequences to be harsh. Suddenly Free Speech has limits, has consequences. Unfortunately, the right often don't notice the hypocrisy, or much care, they just hate the libs, don't care for introspection, and double down on the victim mentality.

    Let's say somebody laughs about Charlie Kirk. Others laughed about the attack on Paul Pelosi. One of Trumps sons posted a horrendously callous meme about it. Are you honestly telling me you have never laughed at a meme making fun of some lefty being hurt or killed?

    Is all your concern solely for your own tribe? And is all your hatred and anger and judgement reserved for your perceived enemy?

    Maybe try an experiment, maybe try imagining what it was like to be a friend or family member of Paul Pelosi, and imagine what it must feel like to see the mocking and abuse that followed his brutal attack. (You will have to accept that the "left" is made up of actual human beings who have feeling and emotions.) Try to imagine being someone constantly being targeted by hate speech, maybe somebody who Charlie Kirk was constantly dehumanising. Maybe imagine hearing that he had been killed in a highly ironic way, shot by one of his one with a firearm. Try to imagine why somebody might be so sick of constantly being on the receiving end of his hateful rhetoric, that it felt right to celebrate his death.

    A little bit of imagination and empathy can go a long way, if you let it.

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