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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,343 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Another peculiar hill to die on chosen yet AGAIN. Bigger companies than Ryanair have chosen to embrace Irish

    McDonald’s introduce an ‘as Gaeilge’ ordering option across Ireland | Newstalk

    and other companies see the benefits

    The growing pride in Irish culture through fashion, language, and music

    Advertising the Irish Language | LBBOnline

    Meanwhile RyanAir's bombastic and authoritarian 'we know best' attitude continues to bring them into conflict. They have been accused of what belligerent Unionists have been accused of too.

    One person online described Ryanair's policy as "bigoted rubbish".

    Ryanair Afrikaans test: South African fury over language quiz



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,835 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    You miss the point yet again. McDonalds is simply called McDonalds. If the name outside was Mcdonalds Restaurant then by your logic it should be changed to bi-Lingual to be welcoming to everyone, sez you. we would have this sig above every McD's in the country:

    Bialanna McDonalds

    McDonalds Restaurant

    On boards.ie why is there not demand to have any of the headers or pages bi-lingual?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,343 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Not my logic at all Francis.

    Your deflectionary logic more like.

    I won't be indulging it. I asked @downcow a question, if he knows the answer because you clearly don't.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,835 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    And I asked you the not unreasonable question why do republicans like yourself not think to ask to get the header at the top of this page ( eg "Posts" "Categories" "Groups") in to dual language / Irish, if you are so keen on Irish? Is it because you know that a website that does that will suffer? After all, the more Irish the better and "every word of Irish is a bullet for Irish Freedom"? It is obvious who you enjoy shooting the bullets at.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 690 ✭✭✭michael-henry-mcivor


    The official motto of the Royal Irish regiment -( brit army )- is in Irish- are they shooting a bullet for Irish freedom when they use it-

    Faugh A Ballagh - ( clear the way-



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,835 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    I know that, and I also know they do not confuse everyone by having a stupid bi-lingual name

    Royal Irish regiment

    Reisimint Ríoga Ireann



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 690 ✭✭✭michael-henry-mcivor


    So their official Irish language motto does not confuse anyone-?-



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,835 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    Because it is only a motto. Look up the definition of motto if you do not know what it is.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,343 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Nobody is proposing that the name of anywhere is changed.

    In many many cases the original place names enhance the place and explain its origin.

    Belfast derives from "Béal Feirste: the mouth of the sandbar, which reveals the origin of the city name that the crude phonetic translation into English cannot do.

    Brian Friel’s world famous play Translation’s highlights what was lost when the British Ordinance crudely translated so many placenames.
    Only those ashamed of or afraid of Irish or bigoted would have an issue about preserving as much culture and heritage as we can.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,835 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    And Ryanair derives from Aer Ryan, the airline of the Ryan clan, revealing its origin.

    Now go and tell Michael O'Leary he has to rebrand all his planes, logos, stationary etc from 

    RyanAir  to dual branding including the equal size word AerRyan

    I'd love to see the reaction you get.

    I'd say you'd get a big footprint on the seat of your trousers.

    Fly "AerRyan/Ryanair".

    mnnn.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 690 ✭✭✭michael-henry-mcivor


    Only a motto to U-

    Some take their traditions very seriously-

    U dont- but others do-



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,835 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    It is not like a large ugly dual language, confusing name on the side of a building or aircraft. Now yourself and FrancieBrady should go and tell Michael O'Leary he has to rebrand all his planes, logos, stationary etc from 

    RyanAir  to dual branding including the equal size word AerRyan

    I'd love to see the reaction you get.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,343 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Which is why belligerent Unionism has once again chosen the wrong hill to die on.

    Bryson who led this Judicial Review has revealed that it is really about trying to get parades down Garvaghy Rd again and toxic sectarian bonfires left alone, bless him.

    Courts are getting fed up dealing with Unionists looking for their veto back.

    ‘When you are used to privilege, equality feels like oppression’



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    What about mono-lingual signage in Gaeltacht areas in the South? Shouldn't they be bi-lingual as well, since I'd say quite a few people in these areas don't speak Irish as their first language?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,343 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 690 ✭✭✭michael-henry-mcivor


    On the other side of the unionist coin we had Heather the FG presidential candidate humphries saying today that she attended orange marches as a child but would now vote for a United Ireland- she is a Presbyterian but knows the way things are moving-

    The 26 counties will not be a problem in the GFA border poll-



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 690 ✭✭✭michael-henry-mcivor


    Can see O'Leary doing duel language signs in the near future- he knows the lay of the land- ( and Air-



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,835 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    And boards.ie will be half in Irish, and pigs will fly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,835 ✭✭✭Francis McM


    There was another protestant Fine Gael Monaghan politician Billy Fox, murdered in Co. Monaghan by extremist Republicans during the troubles. Maybe she does want not to end up intimidated or attacked like him, so she has to sing a green song now? It is telling that she needs to emphasise her politics on a U.I. at this stage in the campaign, when nobody else has mentioned it and when it is a priority to only 1% of people in various surveys done? ( Most people are more concerned about housing, rising prices, immigration, healthcare etc). Especially if she needs to attract a broad spectrum of votes? Is she not on a good thing already, a Ministers pension anyway, which is more than most workers and taxpayers in this state earn for actually working ; no wonder she loves this state.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 690 ✭✭✭michael-henry-mcivor


    Billy Fox was driving down a lane when he was stopped at a IRA check point- he made a run for it and was shot-

    The IRA had information that loyalists weapons were being stored at the girls friends house-

    If FG is talking all Ireland politics now so will the rest-



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,343 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    I'm sure the DUP would love to be able to divert to nonsense about RyanAir but they are caught between a rock and a hard place now.
    Once again their strategy blows back in their faces.
    The Irish Language Commissioner, as directed by the Judge, will outline what best practice is and where will they be able to hide that their objections are just anti anything Irish?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,219 ✭✭✭itsacoolday


    But no weapons were discovered at the girlfriends house, that was only an excuse for sectarian intimidation because they did find a bible and made a scene out of burning it first before burning the rest of the house down. If you do not toe the Republican line, lies are made up about your nearest and dearest…. Was really interesting Heather H. today ( a Co. Monaghan Fine Gael protestant) feeling she needed to emphasise her credentials on a U.I. at this stage in the campaign, when nobody else has mentioned it and when it is a priority to only 1% of people in various surveys done.

    And as FrancisBrady has kindly confirmed, even anyone from anywhere on the island of Ireland can be accused of being DUP if they dare criticize SF policy towards Irish in the north. Poor Billy Fox, an innocent protestant Fine Gael Monaghan man, was accused of being a B special before he was murdered, which of course he was not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Quite telling that response.

    What you are admitting to is that the demand for Irish language signs etc. is so low that no private company is wasting any time or money on it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,222 ✭✭✭Fionn1952


    Language and culture absolutely should be supported beyond that which is profitable for one specific private company. If it was anyone bar Francie, you wouldn't for a second draw such a ridiculous line in the sand as, 'we shouldn't have dual language signs because Michael O'Leary doesn't think it would be profitable for Ryanair'.

    Whatever about one's opinions on dual language signage, this is genuinely one of the most dogsh*t arguments I've seen here in a long time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    IF customers wanted it, Ryanair would do it, that is the point.

    They don't.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,343 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    As pathetic as the clingy RyanAir stuff is, it’s not going to get the DUP out of the pickle they’ve landed themselves in by letting Bryson lead the way for them again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 690 ✭✭✭michael-henry-mcivor


    If loyalists weapons were discovered the RA would not be putting out a statement saying they had loyalist guns-

    Billy Fox was driving down the lane when he saw the IRA check point- he stopped the car got out and made a run for it- he should not have been shot- but he was-

    Heather is a Presbyterian-

    If the FF candidate does not say that he to would vote for a united Ireland then Heather thinks she has something to hit her opponent with-



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,222 ✭✭✭Fionn1952


    Are you genuinely trying to make the argument that a private, about as internationally focused as possible company doesn't see the value in placing dual language signage on their planes that spend most of their time in other countries, therefore said language shouldn't be supported by a state body?

    If you have a point beyond trying to argue with Francie and taking the opposing side to whatever SF say, then please expand on it because this current line of reasoning is beneath you. We've had our share of differing perspectives, but this is genuinely one of the most preposterously illogical, completely detached from any reasonable interpretation takes I've seen from you. You're trying to draw a comparison between the responsibilities of a government signed up to legislation to protect a language versus the responsibilities of a private company that literally operates on the basis of going to other fecking countries.

    Take a deep breath, forget you're arguing with Francie and the SF perspective and try responding like a grown up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,219 ✭✭✭itsacoolday


    If there were loyalist guns the pIRA would at least have shown them to the occupants of the house, instead of just burning the bible in front of them. They would have told people they found arms. The girlfriends family had no connection with paramilitaries on the other side of the border, why would they. I condemn all sectarian attacks, no matter whose side they come from.

    Yes I know Heather H is a Presbyterian, but Presbyterians are protestants too.

    That is rubbish saying the FF candidate has to say that he to would vote for a united Ireland, because it is a given FF, whose slogan is the republican party would vote for a u.i.. We know why HH said what she did, even though a U.I. is not an issue in this election.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 690 ✭✭✭michael-henry-mcivor


    Who knows who was connected to what-

    Who knows if a bible was actually burned in front of them- they were not shot so where was this hate-

    Both Catholics and Presbyterians suffered under the brit penal laws- protestants did not-

    The FF Taoiseach might not want to vote YES in a border poll- I think FG has smelled that about MM-

    Why did HH say what she said then-



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