Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

This.

When the far left can not rationally debate people that disagree with their idealogy they tar that person's reputation with falsehoods and then call for them to be murdered.

They use labels like racist, bigot, homophonic, nazi, etc, etc.

The guy was a Christian conservative.

Its an attack on free speech.

Pure and simple.

he won’t fck with my free speech that’s for sure

It's a shame as, all in all, he seemed like an absolute bellend.

He didn't deserve to be assassinated, but that doesn't make him less of a bellend.

Unfortunately that nuance seems to be lost in all the black and white virtue signalling.

Is one to take it that being Christian conservative make one automatically mutually exclusive to being racist, homophobic, nazi, etc etc by nature, rather than by label?

Should people also think that because one is labelled insane lefty radical left liberal, say by Trump, that makes one likely to go around with a high-powered bolt action rifle shooting people of Christian conservative background dead?

Edit, changes word lefty for radical left as I've just seen those words used by Trump.

Typical far left hate speech.

Its this shite talk that leads to political violence.

You must have had some major issues with the type of hateful language Kirk used regularly, that led to the political violence he seemingly became a victim of.

Regardless of what Kirk said, no one deserves to be assassinated for their political beliefs. Rip to him, and sympathies to his wife and children.

People are gonna do their best to make others say he deserved it and then use the words against you, or when you criticise Kirk for anything he ever said. Don't let them do it

Nobody deservers to be killed like he was, to be clear in my view

Semantic/ancillary point, here.

I've seen news outlets calling the killing of Kirk an assassination. Now, the definition of assassination is a little murky, but it tends to involve a political motive from what I can see. While I would be extremely surprised if the killer didn't have a political motive, I don't know if it should be called an assassination without qualifier of 'presumed' or 'possible' until the killer has been found and their motives confirmed. I wonder if news networks use that word because they're absolutely sure of the motive or because the word 'pops' better than just saying 'murder' or 'killing'?

It's an interesting point, could be a Mark David Chapman type situation instead.

I cannot see how rationally debate with someone who said " I can`t stand the word empathy, actually. I think empathy is a made up, new age term that - it does a lot of damage", would even be possible.

In fact wouldn`t having empathy be a basic tenet of Christian belief even for conservatives ?

The full quote is as follows:

“I can’t stand the word empathy actually. I think empathy is a made-up, New Age term that — it does a lot of damage, but it is very effective when it comes to politics,” he added.

”Sympathy I prefer more than empathy,” Kirk said, “That’s a separate topic for a different time".

which is perfectly reasonable point of view, but of course people have been cutting out the last part of the quote in order to try and demonize him.

Empathy is far more emotive way of looking at something and less rational approach in my opinion, so what he said was perfectly reasonable.