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The DP World Tour Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,494 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    I dont agree. Every other place on this forum where politics, especially Trump, get into it things descend into a sh1tshow. Lets please not do that here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,239 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    RTE news earlier from Doonbeg



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,239 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Soccer forum is very well moderated - people give a strong opinion on stuff and expand their world views.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,149 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    How do you think it was picked, money and lobbying.

    Thats how most courses are selected for tournaments, its rarely purely on merit.

    Why is Adare Manor hosting the Ryder Cup, we have alot of far better courses, money is the answer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,239 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Your 100 % right - out of curiosity - who does actually decide the location ?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,149 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Id imagine its the DPWT (European) Tour that decides where the tournaments are held but Im not sure.

    Its probably some payback to Trump for his part played in trying to broker a deal between the PGA and LIV, and to try and keep him onside.

    It also bodes well for Irish US relations, keep him happy, Ireland is extremely dependant on US multinationals.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭coillcam


    If this US administration can decide to target their strongest age old allies on a whim. I think a bit naive to think the Irish Open has much of an influence on trade affairs or relations. Perhaps in the past.

    The new venue choice is either a clear brown envelope or slightly coincidental. There is a new signature event on the PGA tour for 2026 in Miami. You can guess the name, hint it starts with T.

    I've no idea how fit Doonbeg is to handle an Irish Open. My only criticism is that it's poor for transport links. Ennis is 45 mins drive and Shannon an hour away. Not sure what the accommodation situation would be like. It's just out of peak travel season but there would still be some tourism.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,592 ✭✭✭Trampas


    What’s disappointing is 0 events for a month after British open. Middle of summer and can’t find somewhere to hold an event



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,548 ✭✭✭big_drive


    I was in Wentworth today. Shane -5 for his final 7 holes. Good sign given his previous form in this tournament. Be great if he can contend at weekend. Rory cruising until the 18th, second year in a row that his approach left him down.

    Crowds following Rory were unbelievable, very hard to even get room to see a shot. Course very soft, massive pitch marks on greens. If weather stays like that the winning score will be very low.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,106 ✭✭✭bobster453




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭coillcam


    I'll answer your question without going into detail as it's all common knowledge. I won't go further into political discussion after this response as it's going to end being completely unrelated to golf and detail the topic.

    Look what's happened to the relationships with Canada and Denmark. More recently South Korea. Decades and generations of trust simply eroded in months.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,421 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    I've played Doonbeg, it's very much an out and back course, I cannot think of proper spectating area anywhere expect perhaps the dunes (the first is wide open), some holes border the cliff edge so zero spectating there, the road in is not sufficient for buses or tour trucks and there is zero parking at the place. I can't remember a full scale practice area. For all those reasons it's quite a surprise given we could host probably quarter of a million over the week in K Club, the numbers will 100% be down.

    The only upside is that it is a links, also remember the greens are younger than the course, probably 9/10 years old by the time of the Open

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 399 ✭✭Break80


    Agree 100%.

    Financially it doesn't sense. The course itself would be a good test but a nightmare for viewing unless they build stands on dunes.

    That wouldn't shock me with the owners track record.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 7,029 Mod ✭✭✭✭charlieIRL


    We’re gonna have a chat about it. Me personally, I don’t want to be talking about it here, there’s plenty of other forums for political views. We don’t talk about golf in them!!!


    We’ll get back to you on this.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,421 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Please feel free to engage discussions about Trump on the understanding it remains Golf related

    Unfortunately there are beings out there that search keywords and will come in having never posted in the Golf forum before just to flame and cause upset, these postings will be deleted.

    Also remember the general posting Guidelines on Board re insults/accusations etc…

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,190 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    Ridiculous to have the Irish open next year at a Trump owned course.

    They've had a brilliant boost for the sport with the positive coverage last week and the thrilling climax and now next years event will be completely overshadowed because of who owns the course, already you can see people who have zero interest in golf using the decision as an opportunity to have a pop at the sport. Does nobody involved in golf in the European tour have even the slightest clue about public relations.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,015 ✭✭✭coillcam


    I think we have short term memories. It's only a few years since the Irish Open was about to be shelved. Only for Rory and sponsors stepped in to save the day.

    For anyone wondering about why an unsuitable course or venue could be picked. It comes back to the relationships and money behind the game. For a long time there has been significant backing of the ET/DP tour from the middle east. The PGA tour also has a large percentage stake in the DP tour.

    Then you have the PIF/PGA/LIV/DP merger situation that's begun to play out in the last couple of years.

    Now that the 3 year stint at the K club is finished they can choose whatever course they want. Given the current geopolitical climate trump gets his ego stroked and pound of flesh.

    By having the merger agreement in place, it means less eyes into LIV/PIF. There was investigation and discovery process about to kick off until that big announcement. Trump can smooth over any trouble and swat away the microscope. So yes Trump gets his name in the news again and his business gets a nice cash injection.

    There's no consideration for PR optics here, showcasing Ireland or growing the game.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,494 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    There could be better choices for sure.

    Partly to the Trump thing, but probably moreso because of possible protests and controversy rather than that. I'd bet a 100 there will be some idiots trying to destroy the course before the tournament. But really he is not bad for golf. Did you see Trump Aberdeen a few ago? Unreal place.

    But the location... Arse end of nowhere, only backroads into this thing. Somewhat of a logistical nightmare, attendances will be low. But then how knows? People might be thinking I get great views here.

    Me personally I'm being agnostic. Is he a ****? Sure is but so are practically all American presidents, it's in the job decription.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 806 ✭✭✭Pdoghue


    The Irish Open is back at the K Club in 2027. The 3 year agreement was for hosting the event in 2023, 2025 and 2027.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,221 ✭✭✭✭Mantis Toboggan


    Noren the form horse, unlucky to miss out on the Ryder cup.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,154 ✭✭✭billy3sheets


    If anyone had to drop out, Noren would be a great replacement.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,149 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    I think Rory saved the Irish Open last week, the field was extremely poor, worst I can ever recall to be honest.

    Its not a big event anymore and having it at Doonbeg might bring over some big names and some Liv players.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,494 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    Thats gotta be a joke, no?

    The Irish Open was half dead for years with poor purses. As for the ladies we didnt even have an Irish Open for 10 years or so.

    Last week had a $6m purse. Way above 'average' DP events like the Italian, French, Spanish or the Omega or the BMW in Munich who all have half that.

    Consequently it had a top class DP field plus all the Irish guys including Lowry, Power, Harrington and some good LIV names like Reed, Hatton, Koepka.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,243 ✭✭✭Glebee


    If Rory had not been in the hunt on Sunday afternoon then K Club would have been deserted, is say the organisers could not believe their luck with the ending.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,149 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    No I'm serious.

    The field was really weak considering the size of the purse.

    How many of the top 100 players in the World rankings played ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,494 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    I dont know how many top 100 were there but it was a who's who on the European Tour plus some extra big names. Not a weak field IMO. Unless your ambition is to be as big as Wentworth which is the European/DPW flagship event and has the extra English top players like Fitzi, Rose, Fleetwood.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 877 ✭✭✭jams100


    19 of the top 100 players in the world. (Make of that what you will).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,494 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    Well I wouldnt go to the bother to count tbh.

    If someone is going to make an argument around the number of top 100 players they better count themselves. Like 'only 19 of the top 100 players played'.

    Throwing a question out there they dont even know the answer to themselves is a non argument IMO.

    Not that I'm trying to turn this into an argument anyway. Apologies if I come across this way. Just saying to me it didnt feel like a weak field. If I look at the last 10, 15 Irish opens it wasnt the strongest (think the Irish Open was a Rolex event for a year or two) but it was way above average.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,421 Mod ✭✭✭✭slave1


    Top 100 is a bit of a waste of time, US guys won't come over, Rors got some over for RCD but the weather was brutal, also The Open will be over so those US guys won't want to get beat around on links (again?)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,494 ✭✭✭CalamariFritti


    Agreed top 100 is dominated by PGA Tour. European events which will attract a big number of those will be restricted to Open preparation.

    Even Wentworth; it gets Fleetwood, Rose, Noren, Hovland etc, top European players who play on the PGA Tour. But rarely gets the likes of Scheffler, JT, Xander etc.



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