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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,120 ✭✭✭✭AbusesToilets


    Personalities who spew hatred are hated. News at 11!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,477 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Almost as weird as the person who trawled through social media to put all that together.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 410 ✭✭scuba8


    The extreme right wing (is there any other sort in trump’s America) are blaming the left on the rise of hate speech and violence. Take a look at this and tell me who is promoting hate speech

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 929 ✭✭✭nolivesmatter


    They can mourn him for as long as they want while also still hold true to their beliefs.

    I'd be "anti-gun", but I think Kirk was being honest there in a way that most people just aren't comfortable with. For example we effectively accept road deaths as being "worth it" to have cars.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 611 ✭✭✭Seattle


    It's what they've been doing for years. Accuse the other side of the bad thing they are doing. For eg. Trump accusing the Democrats of rigging the 2020 election - even though he was the one actually trying to rig that election!

    It's a tactic the extreme right have used for a long time now, and they do it because they get away with it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,942 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    He wasn't just a social media influencer.

    He was a political activist, on the opposite side of the political spectrum to Malcolm X, but when Malcolm X was assassinated, it was still worthy of comment from heads of state around the world.

    (interestingly with Malcolm X, he was murdered for splitting from the Nation of Islam, by his own side. It remains to be seen who actually killed Kirk, it could have been some ultra right wing person who thinks he wasn't fascist enough and would be worth more as a martyr than alive)

    Ban billionaires



  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 4,122 Mod ✭✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    The Netflix series "The Family" helps explain some of this. The Family was an elite Religious Right network that also supported capitalism and what would now be called Prosperity Gospel. Doug Coe used to lead it. They got Reagan to start the National Prayer Breakfast, though every President has kept it, recognising the importance of religious voters.

    However, the former Puritan heartlands in New England are now liberal. In the Southern states, elites were more recent and tended to be Anglicans. There was tension between Scots-Irish Presbyterians and the Anglican elites there, similar to in 18th century Ireland leading up to 1798. Some American colonies had established churches.

    American elites in New England tended to be Congregationalists, which were a more liberal offshoot of Puritanism. In the 1800s there was the birth of a very right-wing offshoot called Evangelicalism, largely outside the Northeast. White Evangelicals tend to hold very conservative, Old Testament views. They aligned with slave owners in the South, whereas in the North they aligned with the abolitionists e.g William Lloyd Garrison and Harriet Beecher Stowe.

    However, they have historically stayed out of politics mostly until about 1980. About half of them voted fit Jimmy Carter in 1976. I think a factor that pushed them to the Republicans was issued like attempts to make their churches pay tax, enforcing the Johnson Amendment that says a church loses its tax exempt status if it endorsed political candidates. In his first term, Trump issued an Executive Order to not enforce it, even though Congress passed it and the Johnson amendment is statute law.

    Some Evangelicals were even pro-choice on abortion until the late 70s. It wasn't always as right-wing a movement as now. In the 1930's some Evangelicals supported FDRs New Deal for example.

    Also the Baptist Church, the main Evangelical Church, split over slavery in 1845. The Southern Baptists supported slavery and later segregation. They apologised for this in 1995. When they did support slavery, they cited The “Curse of Ham” (Genesis 9:20–27), where Noah curses Ham’s son Canaan, saying he will be “a servant of servants.”

    • To justify segregation, Leviticus 19:19, Deuteronomy 23:2–3, Numbers 5:2 we're cited.
    • Some leaders argued that God’s law prescribed separation of “different kinds” and that this could be applied socially to races.
    • Segregated schools, churches, and public spaces were framed as following a divine pattern of separation.
    • Anti slavery Evangelicals in the north rejected these interpretations. They cited Galatians 2:38 which says "there is neither Jew not Greek, slave not free" as supporting equality.

    Black churches are often Evangelical too, but tend to interpret the bible more liberally, as supporting civil rights.

    Black Evangelicals often cite:

    • Exodus 3:7–10 – God hears the cry of the oppressed and calls Moses to deliver them.
      • Black evangelicals often see this as a model for fighting racial injustice and advocating for the oppressed.
    • Isaiah 1:17 – “Learn to do good; seek justice, correct oppression; bring justice to the fatherless, plead the widow’s cause.”
      • Used to support advocacy for systemic justice and protection of marginalized communities.
    • Micah 6:8 – “He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God.”
      • Emphasizes moral responsibility to support social equity and human dignity.
    Post edited by Ozymandius2011 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,631 ✭✭✭FAILSAFE 00


    No way the democrats are getting back into the White House in 4 years time with the level of political violence they have inspired.

    Every week they make themselves look more like extremists.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,101 ✭✭✭gw80


    USS Liberty,9-11, now this



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 410 ✭✭scuba8


    The US senate voted, last night, to keep the Epstein files secret. Republicans protecting pedophiles again. There is no other reason to keep the files secret. Mind you they do a lot to protect their own. How about this fine gentleman.

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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 45,617 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    What political violence have the Democrats inspired and exactly how did they inspire it?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 929 ✭✭✭nolivesmatter


    The people in those pictures are actual Nazis. They wouldn't be asking you not to call them Nazi, they'd be proud of it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,631 ✭✭✭FAILSAFE 00


    Get real.

    Riots in US cities against deportation of illegal criminals.

    Attacking law enforcement officials.

    Presidential assassination attempts.

    Tesla owner attacks, Tesla dealership attacks.

    The persistent calls on social media for the deaths of well known individuals who disagree with the woke progressive ideology.

    Assassination of health insurance CEOS

    And now the assassination of a very popular political influencer.

    Political violence is the speciality of the left.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,946 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    Says alot if january 6th is not called out as political violence. Totally dishonest not to mention that event.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,953 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Its starting to make sense why a lot of MAGA's want to "save" children. It not to protect them but rather keep them for themselves.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,522 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,946 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    The Trump would be assassin was also more right leaning. He was anti immigration.

    This team Right vs team Left mentality in America is the kind of mindsets that promote this political violence.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,202 ✭✭✭eire4


    Thomas Crooks was in fact a registered Republican.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,631 ✭✭✭FAILSAFE 00


    Is that all you have?

    You'll have to deliver an awful lot more to come close.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,946 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    Ah so i guess not an example of left wing political violence as was indicated by the other poster.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 410 ✭✭scuba8


    Republicans don’t like being labeled as Nazis. But nazis do support trump.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,058 ✭✭✭RickBlaine


    The current Vice President once called the current President 'America's Hitler'.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 410 ✭✭scuba8


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    And another pedophile so beloved of the Maga morons. They seem to be steeped in criminality.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,622 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    Jeeez. Pages and pages of back-and-forth about some guy called Charlie Kirk.

    I remember the good ol' days when the Donald Trump thread was non-stop comment about Donald Trump.

    Would it be terribly revolutionary of me to suggest all of ye who want to talk about Charlie Kirk start a Charlie Kirk thread?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,046 ✭✭✭rogber


    Exactly. I see he also said children should view public executions. Well now his kids can see his when they grow up.

    What an obnoxious assh*le he seems to have been



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,573 ✭✭✭scottser


    Inability to grasp any nuance whatsoever and only hearing what you want to hear is the perfect breeding ground for extremism. You might own that, while you're asking it of others.

    Oh, and you still can't tell the difference between opinion and hate speech I see.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,637 ✭✭✭ilkhanid


    I'm not sure that's a word he would have used. He was the kind of character that probably thought that fascists were good guys, or at worst, misunderstood. Or he might have been the other crazy type of MAGAt that used to claim that fascists (in this reading, they are bad guys) were really left wing.

    Post edited by ilkhanid on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,621 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    "Political violence is the speciality of the left."

    That's weird. The right seems to revel in it....

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    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,196 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    There is one,,at least there was last night,,I agree btw,alot of silly back and forth that is unreadable, skip a page and more of the same.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,621 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    A weird glitchy video from Trump last night, and then today, he looks like this at al 9/11 ceremony.....

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    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



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