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Dairy Chitchat 4, an udder new thread.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,760 ✭✭✭older by the day


    I was looking at barley price there 198/ton ex vat and haulage.

    If a fella had the set up to store it, it would be good value

    What would you need



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,224 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Had a cow calved yesterday with milk fever this morning, head buried in underneath her against a wall. In hindsight I should have given her a bottle of calcium when she calved. Oh would have been called in such emergencies to help . I put a strap on her front legs and got digger to straighten her up. Gave her a bottle in the vein and another under the skin and left her a few hours. She's up now. Always get a bit of milk fever in the autumn calvers



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,638 ✭✭✭Wildsurfer


    Are you able to find the neck vein? 30 years farming and it upsets me it's still something I have to call the vet for



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 31,224 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    I either use neck vein or milk vein.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,142 ✭✭✭straight


    A bin would be best if guess. What about the oats. That's cheaper.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,686 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    bang it in the milk vein but always use a new needle if doing so. Any bit of dirt is detrimental in the long run



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29 dairyedge2


    will the new tb rules fast forward your 2nd clearance sale? God forbid if you got locked up in the meantime you’d only get beef value for them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭ftm2023


    We must have gotten close to 3 inches of rain today. Maybe even more. Cows in here with a few weeks already. Winter set in early this year.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,478 ✭✭✭Tonynewholland


    A roller. It’s hardship and can’t really feed it on its own.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,510 ✭✭✭awaywithyou


    nice day here tuesday.. yesterday up until 5/6pm wasnt too bad.. but it has been brutal altogether since…. some amount of rain falling… cows in by night since sept 1st… might have went out 1/2 nights.. but id say now unless theres a major turn around in weather.. they wont see grass by night again til next year… they are milking well though… sept 2024 was superb weatherwise.. but cows are milking better than this time last year at the moment….



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,686 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    75 mm in 24 hours sounds like an awful lot, are you sure you got that amount ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 289 ✭✭ftm2023


    I turned off the electric fence this evening. Don’t think an animal will be out here again until 2026… we’ve a place for heifers in southwest limerick, it’s no golden vale land by a long long shot but it’s night and day versus how wet the place is here at home.

    I have no way of measuring it accurately but we definitely got over 2 inches of rain in the last 24 hours. If we didn’t get 3 inches it would have been very close it. Even if we did have dry land which we certainly don’t - the cows wouldn’t want to be out given the weather we are getting



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,638 ✭✭✭Wildsurfer


    That's tough going lads, will ye have enough silage to get through 7/8 months indoors?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,744 ✭✭✭weatherbyfoxer


    Just goes to show how different land require such different management.Most lads cows around here (south Kildare) arnt in full-time time till drying off around December and out straight away after calving in February at least during the day with most out full time by mid/late march baring a belt of snow or something



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,142 ✭✭✭straight


    Yep, and those lads have no idea how lucky they are. Heard a podcast recently of a lad up that way preaching to lads to get their cows out in February and they will thank you. Not a clue like..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,134 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    Are lads fit to feed for the extended winter? A lad down the road had cattle out till start of December last year and back out early march. But he grazed some of his silage land this summer so hasn't as much made as usual. Has some of last years but is eating that now. He's starting to panic a bit already



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,744 ✭✭✭weatherbyfoxer


    Only thing is most lads end up buffer feeding silage for 4-6 weeks during the summer because of drought.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,142 ✭✭✭straight


    I'm listening to Irish Farmers Journal podcasts | Ep 1310: The Tillage Podcast - “Tillage is so uncertain. It’s like doing the lotto” on Podbean, check it out! https://www.podbean.com/ea/dir-4k32t-276fba69

    Siobhain had some tillage lad on. He's very hard to understand but it sounds like they're getting some doing from the dairy farmers. Converting to dairy farming for a better lifestyle 🤣😂🤣.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 6,142 ✭✭✭straight


    That's alot easier to deal with that the puddles. The same lad reckoned he had loads of slurry storage. He had enough to do him up to Feb I think. Not a clue like.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,661 ✭✭✭Gillespy


    Cow's feet would pick a drought over wet ten times out of ten. You think your roadways are in good order until you get a month like this.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,686 ✭✭✭GrasstoMilk


    a local lad won the tillage category in the macra young farmer competition earlier in the week, he was on local radio yesterday.
    hes farming 700 acres and can’t expand because of other sectors competing for land.
    dairy farmers are the boogeyman to them



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,392 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    Hes local to us, tied in with a large independent merchant, was blowing everyone out of the water for land rental a few years ago...

    They got a bad doing a few years ago, brand new combine was destroyed its first day out, after a surprise was left in a field he was after putting a lad out of



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 347 ✭✭Mf310


    Have used milk vein a nice bit but always weary doing it vet has warned they can be prone to rupture when doing it there now maybe he was only scaring me off it but i doubt it? Only job when down with milk fever though rapid working



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,614 Mod ✭✭✭✭K.G.


    Letting cows in by night from now is nt a major issue,it's when they can't get out for some bit of the day it makes for more hardship.they d eat 3/4 s at least during the day anyway and in by night doesn't mean alot of silage is eaten.i often think we put up rolls rice housing for cows and then go slooshing about in the rain and wonder does it make sense



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,760 ✭✭✭older by the day


    I have come to the conclusion after 30 plus years of farming, that "don't be afraid to ring the vet". Difficult calving or cows down or whatever. When you are on your own, another pair of hands makes a big difference. And it's might be only 2 or 3 more calls than usual. Plus you can put it against your tax bill.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,695 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    Nobody pulls them up.

    Dairy cows were back 50,000 from 23 to year 24. Dairy heifer registrations are back 45,000 from 24 to 25.

    Tillage area is up 6% in the last 4 years.

    It's like one big cult run by that tillage group that featured threatening organic commentators worldwide.

    Revealed: the US government-funded ‘private social network’ attacking pesticide critics | Pesticides | The Guardian https://share.google/6yojsL0T7OU1ZQGHK

    There's a speaker in Ireland revealed he was part of that group. He'd be speaking at teagasc events and getting his name in the paper how crops need 200 units of nitrogen and only the year before teagasc measured their members being the most efficient n users (in the world) in a figure three times higher than science ever measured before. So 200 units would probably give a yield of 20 tons per acre based on their calculator.

    It's a sorry state of affairs when a millionaire is on radio with 700 acres running down his neighbours with 60 cows. And saying he can't make a living because of them.

    It's a vegans dream.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,510 ✭✭✭awaywithyou


    ah yeah we'd always make 8/9 months worth of silage each year… we'll be grand.. back in 2023 there was only 2 months (May & June) out of the whole year that the cows were out every night.. every other month especially july they spent a good few nights inside… we have plenty of cubicles and barrier space.. so overcrowding is not an issue… if only we could train them like dogs to hold onto there urine and manure until they go out after milking in the morning we'd be laughing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,532 ✭✭✭Grueller


    And the hoof parer. Used to be slobbering at that myself. Line up about ten every month for him. €100, written off against tax, costs me €50. Half a day saved and no hardship as his gear is far superior to my crush



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,695 ✭✭✭✭Say my name


    There's a story doing the rounds in a neighbouring county of a mill that rented their land to one of the mega farmers. They sprayed on something they weren't supposed to. And the mill wouldn't take the corn. Now the farmer won't pay the land rent.



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 4,678 Mod ✭✭✭✭Siamsa Sessions


    I’m the same here. You’d always pick up something new from the vet as well. €60 for call out plus whatever on medicine isn’t much if it increases an animal’s chance of survival, and you learn something about saving the next one.



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