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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,170 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    But poor kirk wouldn't be wanting that after all he said " empathy is for losers:.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,373 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Revelling and dismissing aren't the same thing. I did neither. How do you dismiss a murder? What does that even mean?

    But yeah, many people are revelling but cite a single one. Making up crap nobody said so you can "own" it or whatever isn't clever. It's just bad faith.

    And yeah, it's telling the response. With any kind of normal famous person, you'd be hearing anecdotes, people would share their memories of them and clips and we'd be hearing about some charity or cause they were into. With Kirk, it's the usual crowd with their conspiracy drivel and anyone who criticises him is revelling or something.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,652 ✭✭✭✭breezy1985


    A fair few posters revelling in the fact that people are revelling in the death of this guy 🙄



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,528 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 528 ✭✭✭Apple Dumpling


    A child shot two of his school mates wounding them in Colorado before killing himself as well last night in America. Yet the president of America and world leaders are sending their condolences to an Internet influencer who was shot not to the families of the children shot in yet another school shooting in America.

    The world so broken right now I don’t know what fixes it or do world leaders actually want it fixed their actions say they don’t.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,012 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    You need to look up the word "revelling" in a dictionary and then go back and re read those posts



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,247 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    seems a lot of people online are taking his murder as the opportunity to scold people, to show how virtuous they are…. Isn't that what many people consider what woke behaviour is ? Or is being a snowflake ? Hard to with these amorphous terms….



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,247 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    https://www.reddit.com/r/BoomersBeingFools/s/YnxZC86pU1


    Some very intense reactions to Kirk’s murder. I wouldn’t leave the house if I was in the states this weekend.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭scottser


    My messed up ideology is empathy, compassion and equality. Kirk's is exclusivity, fear and white ethno-christianity. If you follow my messed-up ideology I guarantee you'll live longer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,989 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    mr beast is putting **** tons of wells into some parts of africa. some of the charities that also do this were giving about the fact, cos suddenly their donations are reduced. or he was showing them up by how efficiently he was able to do it.

    if someone from one of those charities assassinated mr beast, possibly starmer et al would pay tribute.

    leaders pay tribute all the time to high profile (tragic) deaths. see kobe bryant and george floyd as examples.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,542 ✭✭✭floorpie


    You know what it means to dismiss it. You said he was vile and that you have no sympathy that he was murdered. I don't know why anybody would feel the need to post this instead of keeping it to themselves. You can be involved in the conversation about the event without saying such things.

    You're all very clever people, we're all impressed by your wit



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 472 ✭✭Greengrass53


    TThink you know why.Starmer is a drowning man who will clutch at any Trump straw in the vain hope of survival. He's wrong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,770 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN




  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 31,417 CMod ✭✭✭✭johnny_ultimate


    Nobody should be assassinated in broad daylight, and gun laws in the US are an absolute travesty and a major reason why all kinds of violence - including, increasingly, political - are so widespread. There is no joy to be taken from yesterday's killing, and the consequential crackdown could be catastrophic.

    But it's kind of nauseating seeing this pretense - including from, bizarrely, seemingly the entire UK political establishment - that Kirk was an entirely innocent victim. He was a modern day hate preacher, constantly spewing the most bigoted views to a wide audience, with seemingly endless funds to do so. He revelled in endless division and cruelty, and clearly was happy to stoke violence just so long as it didn't impact him and his ilk. Especially violence against Democrats, Muslims etc… He celebrated US gun culture and all of its consequences - no mass shooting could ever change his mind.

    Charlie Kirk was a victim of the political and ideological culture Charlie Kirk helped create.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,659 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    So you think if the likes of Mr. Beast was killed, The British Prime Minister would be rushing out a tribute?

    That is unlikely isn't it?



  • Subscribers, Paid Member Posts: 44,909 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    The world leaders (and especially those who financially back them) do not want an end to the culture / identity wars that are widespread across the world today. It keeps the eyes away from the reality of the fact that the majority of assets and commodities in the world right now are getting more expensive and beyond the reach of most working people. The gap between the haves and the others is continuing to widen, especially after COVID. Those that hold more wealth can do nothing with it other than invest in assets though investment funds, and base line assets like housing (but not only housing) in turn become more and more expensive.

    Trump will have loved the events of yesterday. Played right into his authoritarian hands.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,886 ✭✭✭aero2k




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 20,989 ✭✭✭✭y0ssar1an22


    He elaborated that while empathy is politically effective, he personally preferred sympathy over empathy.

    i think i'd agree with his viewpoint looking at the differences.

    Empathy is understanding and sharing another's emotions as if you were experiencing them yourself, fostering a deep connection, while sympathy is feeling sorry for someone's misfortune without necessarily sharing their emotions, often stemming from a position of detachment



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,659 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Jesus, he went a worrying shade of pink.

    That is out there for ever now, for his great grand kids and beyond.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,684 ✭✭✭valoren


    Prefacing this as pure speculation. To use the four dimensional chess narrative then when playing chess you sacrifice your own pieces (even the powerful ones) to ultimately win the game. My immediate gut reaction to this is Qui Bono? You have the latest news of the Epstein Birthday card and you grasp that this isn't going away no matter what deflections have been tried. It could be a case of the sociopaths in the ranks (even unbeknownst to Trump who just wants the story to go away) taking steps to conduct a false flag assassination. Murder one of their own to (1) finally deflect from the Epstein story and dominate news cycles and (2) muster capital to clamp down on the loony left liberals with sniper rifles killing people like Kirk. In the end all that would matter is winning/consolidating power and if murdering a sacrificial lamb, a man with a wife, kids and extended family caters to that then it is a very disturbing thought. If no suspect is found and charged then it would be discomfiting and may lend credence to the (speculative) idea that this was a coordinated assassination while also allowing the fear mongering of loony left liberal murderers at large to fester helping the aforementioned consolidation of power.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,170 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    Well clarified in fairness to you. Maybe you could also clarify what he meant when he said that the granting of civil rights in the 60's was a "huge mistake " ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,531 ✭✭✭scottser


    He showed complete apathy to victims of gun violence and I, along with others are showing him the same.

    Rest In Whatever.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,373 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 311 ✭✭Derkaiser93


    Jesus christ man you're not the sharpest tool

    Mod Edit: Warned for personal abuse

    Post edited by Necro on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,625 ✭✭✭ilkhanid


    Grossly exaggerated, eh? He called civil rights leader Martin Luther King Jr "awful" and "not a good person". He assailed the Civil Rights Act of 1965 (outlaws discrimination based on race, religion, colour, sex and national origin, and prohibited segregation). He believed in that "great replacement" bullshit. He opposed the Juneteenth holiday. He said "If I see a Black pilot, I'm going to be like, 'Boy, I hope he's qualified'" . He was a racist, reactionary, foul, provocative, ****-stirring piece of sh1t and there will be about, say, twenty thousand people, killed unlawfully yesterday that I will be mourning before I mourn him.

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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 45,517 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Sorry what 'leanings' do I have?

    A safe assumption is that you would have right-leaning sympathies. Otherwise you wouldn't have posted in the manner you did.

    I've never posted in this thread before this event.

    erm, yes you have with a despicable comment alleging posters here have mental health issues…

    There are now layers of delusion in your posts making it clear that you have issues. Perhaps you feel encouraged by your fellow troubled posters but that doesn't make you right or good.

    Again, more of the snide comments referring to mental health - how very Trumpian of you 🙄
    (And you think your "leanings" aren't visible in your posts?)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,745 ✭✭✭Cody montana


    Where was the good guy with a gun to stop him?
    oh right, he couldn’t have stopped him.

    I would hope this would lead to a greater debate on gun violence in the USA, but I know it won’t.

    It will be used to fuel more hate and division.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,071 ✭✭✭crusd


    You are aware there have been democratic politicians attached and killed recently aren't you? Or do you think this was co-ordinated by Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, Hillary and the lizard people?

    Nutjubs don't just adhere to one particular political philosophy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 866 ✭✭✭reclose


    this would insinuate that you agree with him on that stance then? Isn’t that a contradiction?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,542 ✭✭✭floorpie


    > I've never posted in this thread before this event.

    erm, yes you have with a despicable comment alleging posters here have mental health issues…

    Yes that comment was about this event….

    A safe assumption is that you would have right-leaning sympathies. Otherwise you wouldn't have posted in the manner you did.

    It's telling that you think being against dismissive comments around somebody's murder - which is all I've posted about - is a partisan issue



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