Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 02/09/25*

If the government stopped viewing people as nothing more than a cell on a spreadsheet, it would be a start. They see people, both Irish and immigrants as nothing more than a revenue stream. But I'm sick saying it, there are agenda's at play, and the sole objective is to destroy western nations. Ireland will be lost some time between 2030-2040.

FF and FG sole objective is to destroy Western Nations?

You sure?

What is being destroyed is, the Irish environment.

Environmental health of rivers, lakes, coasts.

It will be when the rising population overwhelms the already stretched infrastructure.

I haven't ignored what you said, you are blaming immigration for our declining birth rate and you cited your friend unable to have more than 2 children.

It's absolutely ludicrous commentary.

This whole thread is starting to read like Brenton Tarrant's manifesto.

Which opened with the line "It's the birthrates. It's the birthrates. It's the birthrates."

There were 3 scenarios given.

• In the analysis’ medium scenario, where net migration shifts from c.40,000 to c.35,000 per annum over the next forty years, Ireland’s population would reach 6.77 million people in 2065, with labour force growth sustained until 2047.
• In the High scenario, where net migration shifts from c.58,000 to c.53,000 per annum over the time horizon, labour force growth is sustained over the same period with the population potentially reaching 7.59 million by 2065.
• In a Low scenario (net migration falls to c.18,500 per annum by 2065), Ireland’s population could reach 6 million in 2065 with the labour force contracting from 2041 onwards.

Most of them would know someone from their own country here so they'd use their address? That's what I did when moved to London, used mates address to open bank and put on CVs etc. The more people move here the more contacts immigrants will have, an ever expanding network.

This is what i envisage may happen in near future,AI,Trump tariffs and the cyclical nature of boom and bust economics will leave us in an almighty economic mess that will be hard to take or solve.

By then we will have 100s of 1000s of mostly but not exclusively Indians who have used our 3rd Level educational system and others using language schools to gain residency and repartriate family members who will all require Welfare assistance when the IT bubble bursts.

Secondly there will be massive resentment when the Apple Money is gone and the corporation Tax is reduced dramatically and the Irish people realise just how much immigration is costing us,especially when tax rates go up and pensions are reduced or delayed so we can feed and house the many economic migrants we are currently struggling to cope with and it is only increasing as far I can see.

I am very pessimistic about the future and hope I am wrong but I feel we are probably the last European country to wake up to the reality that what is happening is economically unsustainable and we were cursed to have the Apple Money /Allied to record Corporation Tax that allowed our Government to procrasinate when others like Denmark were putting the indigenous population first rather than our gang bending over backwards to be best in class little Europeans while totally ignoring the views of the ordinary folk on the ground.

Of course if I am right the NGOs and woke politicans will blame everyone but themselves so we wont even have the satisfaction of telling them "we told ye"

We are about to have a presidential election,a good opportunity to gauge public support for the Goverments handling of this massive issue.Any chance a candidate that might properly discuss this issue on the campaign like Nick Delahanty getting on ther ballot,

Don't think so

See construction sector has contracted over last couple of months too.

Mod Edit: Warned for breaching threadban

We haven't had a Government in the traditional sense here for a couple of decades. Run the place on auto pilot, implementing EU dictates and upholding our global obligations. Throw money into departmental black holes where sqandermania abounds. I can think of four if not five topics that in any functioning democracy would be framed with and dealt with as crisis. The tiktok man will join his FFFG cronies with his snout in the NGO trough.

If Ireland had the same population density as the Netherlands we would have a population of 35million.

Of course 7.5million is sustainable, with proper planning. We don't however like to do proper planning. We prefer pandering to asset price hawks.

In a zero immigration scenario using the assumptions on population in the report by 2065 we would be at about 5.0million. Of this about 1/3 would be over 65. To maintain the current level of supports for the elderly, overall tax take would need to increase by at least 15%.

why only discuss the upper case scenario and not the middle and lower case?

Why not also discuss the no increase scenario and the consequences of that on the ability of the country to support an aging population and / or the massive increase in the tax burden on those who will be working required to support said aging population?

So now we are on the verge of negative net migration like the last crash?

What happened to the report you saw that claims we will be irreversibly changed by 2040 at the latest

Certain posters on here, have nothing to offer other than calling the "morally unpure" unlike them, names, and trying to take potshots as you say. Expecting them to answer "problematic" questions is akin to expecting a Legion of Mary member from the 1950's to say that papal infallibility is false.

Mod Edit: Warned for baiting