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Donald Trump the Megathread part II

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,248 ✭✭✭✭2smiggy


    the most shocking part was that he had a human wife



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,401 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    Reaction from some people has been pathetic.

    You had people on social media (and this thread) saying I can't feel sympathy for someone like him dying because I don't agree with his views.

    The kind and tolerant left have really shown themselves up over this.

    Post edited by Jack Daw on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,968 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Find it a bit weird that you're trying to invent opinions from a poster to be outraged about. I think most here realise that his assassination is a bad thing.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,703 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Good question.

    Maybe it's an attempt to avoid getting on Trump's bad side?

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,100 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    He openly defended gun ownership after school shootings, he even said Americans already have the rights to healthcare…owning a gun.

    Now, we will see more use his death as a way to mute the conversations around topics totally unrelated. It’ll add even more divisions, we’ve see some saying this is on the democrats and there is still a manhunt underway.

    This would be a time for strong leadership. Instead, Trump posted an AI generated clip expressing his sadness…



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,042 ✭✭✭CFlat


    Dwayne Johnson weighed in....to promote his latest film. What a dick.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,881 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Yeah absolutely - and the Charlie Kirk book- The MAGA Doctrine- will become their bible - I imagine it will go to the #1 best seller list and Trump will make it mandatory to be taught in schools- Trump will also push the Pope to make him a saint



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,289 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Because in the US , "influencers" like him have massive massive reach and politicial influence.

    Kirk had the ability to deliver a significant voting block to Trump and his allies.

    I mean look how many media people are now in Government ,there solely because of their media statements and following, none of them were chosen for an actual ability to do the job

    It's a reflection of where the actual power is in US politics today

    It's not about ability, it's about "influence"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭ledwithhedwith


    "I can't stand the word empathy, actually. I think empathy is a made-up, new age term that — it does a lot of damage."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 575 ✭✭✭Seattle


    More than an influencer. Very strong ties to the Trump Administration - good friends with JD Vance and Trump Jr, as well as having a direct line to Trump himself. He was an insider/influencer and not a more independent influencer like Shapiro.

    I think every political leader will have to recognise this because it's going to have an enormous impact on US politics, which in turn has an effect on the rest of us.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,968 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    It's not real.

    Just to be clear,I think his murder is awful. I sympathise with his family. But that doesn't change the fact that he was an attrocious person. I posted on the previous page where Paul Pelosi was attacked, Kirk was smirking and declaring the attacker should be bailed out by a patriot. This was all as part of a homophobic conspiracy theory him and others were pushing.

    So people can view this as a terrible thing but it doesn't mean they have to rewrite his history into a guy with simply different views. He was egging on extremism for years.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,630 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    Can't have a go at a dead man i know the next best thing let's go after his kids. Discusting his kids are under 4 they have no idea what any of that stuff means as another poster said there priorities were food time nap time, play time and favourite cartoon time.

    Did I disagree vehemently with Charlie Kirk yes 100% but I can also call out a growing trend of people been attacked for there position on politics. Happening here too



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,731 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    Not real. It is based on what he actually did post after the Queen died when he was promoting his Black Adam movie, but the one about Kirk is fake.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,401 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    You've just proved my point.

    Thank You for that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,248 ✭✭✭✭2smiggy


    trump and his lackeys' getting shouted at in the restaurant a few evening ago, maybe America is having a of a France 1790's reaction.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭ledwithhedwith


    How so? These are quotes from the man himself.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,289 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,731 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    The staff in the TMZ office were cheering in relation to another story they were watching/following at the time, a car chase. They were heard laughing in the background of the CHarlie Kirk announcement video, but not because of Charlie Kirk.

    News organisations (as loosely as I use that term for TMZ) follow multiple stories/events at the same time. Not everyone would have downed tools and solely focused on Charlie Kirk.

    As bad a look as it was (and TMZ have acknowledged and apologised for it), they were not cheering for anything related to Charlie Kirk.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,856 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,630 ✭✭✭✭martingriff


    I agree with you up to the last line. Its not just the left that can be intolerant so can the right remember the reaction by some on the right to Paul Pelosi attack. But hey all are human and you will find intolerant people in all camps



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,105 ✭✭✭EltonJohn69


    Did Trump post an AI video of him talking about the death of Kirk rather than actually going to the Oval Office to record a video ? Isn’t that somewhat disrespectful/lazy ?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,881 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    He was discovered by Trump jnr apparently about 10 years ago - he’s spent his time in Universities giving talks to students about the MAGA way and apparently was instrumental in converting students into MAGA supporters in certain swing states in the last election -maybe not single handily got Trump elected, but a hell of a lot of credit is due to him in certain swing states. He’s very close to the Trump family apparently - hence a lot more than just an “influencer” - his name is now martyr status in MAGA circles and I imagine even more young people will flock to the cool aid.

    As to Kier Starmer’s reaction? I’m assuming this is just another opportunity to give Trump fellatio



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,334 ✭✭✭TinyMuffin


    feeling sorry for people is sooo woke.
    Charlie wouldn’t like that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,959 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Immediately before the shooting, Mr Kirk was taking questions from an audience member about mass shootings and gun violence.

    “Do you know how many transgender Americans have been mass shooters over the last 10 years?” the person asked.

    Mr Kirk responded: “Too many.”

    The questioner followed up: “Do you know how many mass shooters there have been in America over the last 10 years?”

    “Counting or not counting gang violence?” Mr Kirk asked.

    Then a single shot rang out.

    Jaysus. Sounds like the scripted ending for a movie.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,542 ✭✭✭floorpie


    I can't believe some of the people in this thread. If you're revelling in anyone's death, or murder in front of their family in this case, or excusing it, or rationalising it, or dismissing it, or making light of it, you're not a well person and should reflect on your own issues before inflicting your issues on others by communicating.

    So many clever posters deftly expressing "sympathy" while dismissing a murder, you're all so intelligent, very impressive.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,879 ✭✭✭circadian


    I'd imagine there was always an element of nerves around this. I'm amazed Robbie Roadsteamer hasn't been shot yet, he's definitely going to be nervy after this but I don't see him stopping.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,248 ✭✭✭✭2smiggy


    the same rats on here who show such disregard for the people of Gaza are shedding a tear kirk. Very predictable



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,703 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,714 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Kirk was raised and a product of ultra conservative (fascist) indoctrination.

    He was like those adult children raised in the Westboro Baptist Church. Brainwashed but willingly partaking in the worst kinds of rhetoric.

    Kirk made a career and millions of dollars indoctrinating an entire generation or real life Eric Cartmans. And now in his death, he will be used as an excuse by trump to crack down on all his political opponents.

    Every political activist who is brave enough to speak out against Trump will now be a accused of being political extremists and will be rounded up by Trump's fascist regime.

    The final act of the fascist takeover is about to begin.

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,959 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    But he wasn't an elected official or person of note who contributed anything to humanity or the arts, etc.

    The Prime Minister should not be paying tributes to him like he was, nor should any other world leader.

    It's bizarre.



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