Israel/Palestine Thread

1. There shouldn't be any trade in or out of the occupied settlements in the west bank at all and that should have been the case for decades.
2. There should be nationwide sanctions against Israel for what they are doing to innocent people, not just in Gaza but all across Palestine. No other country on the planet would be allowed to get away with what they're doing without sanction and condemnation of the most stringent kind.

It's time the rest of the world stopped givng Israel a free pass to do as they wish just because of what happened to Jews 80+ years ago. They've completely destroyed that good will a long, long, time ago.

She is up to her neck in genocide complicity

Pro Israeli hate Hamas because they rightly abhor the deliberate killing of civilians- except when it's Israel doing it to Palestinians. They won't have a word to say about this article. Just as they did not have anything to say about the article you posted about Israel using Palestinians as human shields.

They don't think. Logic doesn't come into it. Whenever I ask them a logical question, I get nothing back, and neither will you.

All they do is lie, compare things to completely unrelated and obscure events in ww2 (e.g. tHe bOmBiNg Of DrEsDeN WaSnT gEnOcIdE and countless others).

When the nonsense of their arguments are pointed out they either disappear or try throw the worlds Jewish population under the bus by saying being against the Gazan genocide means being against Jewish people (which shows the respect they have for such people).

Whether intentional or not, their posts, and the tactics of Israeli politicians, are almost identical to those of the Nazi "big lie" that was instrumental in getting people to carry out the holocaust.

It just so happens a certain cohort of people are willing to ignore logic and accept a big lie, and even propagate a lie, when those they hate can become the victims of that lie.

Im just ashamed that Irish people are either dumb enough to be taken in by it, or heartless enough to propagate it

From Wikipedia

A big lie (German: große Lüge) is a gross distortion or misrepresentation of the truth primarily used as a political propaganda technique.

 The German expression was first used by Adolf Hitler in his book Mein Kampf (1925) to describe how people could be induced to believe so colossal a lie because they would not believe that someone "could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously".

According to historian Jeffrey Herf, the Nazis used the idea of the original big lie to turn sentiment against Jews and justify the Holocaust. 

It's impossible to think this isn't the tactic being deployed regarding Gaza. Most people know it's a lie, because it makes no sense, but the balls of somebody in power lying so hugely over and over again can make you doubt yourself as it is so outrageous, or even buy into it.

I have to say you make a compelling argument!

It would be quite something if the US were forced to use their veto to protect Israel over the attack in Qatar. Xi and Putin must be laughing their heads off at Donnie. They and Bibi are playing Donnie like a fiddle.

It's insane.

You have sickos cheerleading the starvation of children and biker gangs providing "security". I wonder how stringent the vetting process was for that job.

It would make your stomach turn.

That sounds like silly propoganda. As they say though - paper never refused ink

One would imagine the Yanks are moving heaven and earth to get the Qataris to stay quiet on this.

The Guardian is fantastic for this stuff. Anybody dipping into it from the US will get a completely different set of facts from the ones they usually see.

North Americans love their dactyls. I just heard a newsreader speak of Tel Aviv rather than Tel Av-iv. In addition to the mangled place names as Gaeilge the US Google Maps lady does the same thing when guiding me round Ireland - Oranmore rather than Oranmore. One of the best known ones is Robin Hood. All sorts of explanations arise as to why it is dactylic in the US, Robin Hood, but the obvious one is that is how they often pronounce things.

Netanyahu goes out of his way to display his power in the US. When he spoke to Congress on the dangers of nuclear weapons proliferation in the ME, if you don’t mind, he invited his benefactor and former boss, Arnon Milchan, to the event. Milchan previously worked as a spy who illegally exported nuclear switches from the US for Israel’s nukes. One employee went to prison for this crime. Talk about rubbing people’s noses in it.

It’s no surprise that when I Google Gaza biker gang under news I get the BBC and various non-American outlets in the ME, including Israel.