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Donald Trump the Megathread part II

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 895 ✭✭✭Stanley 1


    The lower end of the pic which is left out, where Trump's signature is, meant to depict/copy a woman's pubic hair.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 895 ✭✭✭Stanley 1


    Given the type of guy Trump is, there can be little doubt he gave Ghislane one/shag a few times and would have left Epstein know, it's the nature of the guy.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,789 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,703 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Not sure he should be using the d-word.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,777 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Sotomayor's dissent quote:

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    Actually I have to edit the rest of my post above as I've just "grabbed" this other image as well. I'm not sure which is the original quote item. Sotomayor's message is the same overall.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,897 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    Anyone using the word woke now makes me immediately think they haven't a f**king clue how to properly take issue with someone and are just using it as a lazy pejorative.

    Most are just pi$$ed off that they can't use slurs anymore and aren't happy the world has moved on.

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    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,789 ✭✭✭✭Tony EH


    It's really something when the most powerful man on the planet uses it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 895 ✭✭✭Stanley 1


    'Skeptical' expert sounds alarm as Trump family launches new venture

    "Basulto adds, "However, due to the three warning signals above, I'm skeptical of its long-term upside potential."

    The scamming family is back out again, they must have got bad medical reports on Donald and need to het a move on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,897 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    It really is indicative of how much of a joke this administration is.

    We have a series of characters who as cosplaying as serious people. Kash Patel, Kristi Noem etc etc

    Trump, the worst of the lot, swore to uphold the Constitution yet figuratively wipes his sizeable ass with it.

    A convicted felon, a guy who disobeys court orders, openly attacks judges and pours scorn on their judgements.

    He has attacked democracy itself, interfering with state elections, attempting to blackmail other countries to help him get elected and of course, leading an angry mob to the Capitol Building itself to stop a free and fair election.

    He does nothing to lift up the citizens he swore to represent, and instead uses the office to bully and marginalise, to punch down.

    He has nothing but contempt for the police and army.

    Instead of representing the country on the world stage, he sowes discord and causing friction with standing allies.

    He uses his position exclusively for his own personal gain, breaking decades of norms and basic standards of office.

    He has normalised egregious lying and has lowered the bar for the office to a level we all hope will never be repeated.

    He is completely taking the pi$$ out of the role and the public at large. How anyone could look at him as a "Commander in Chief" and someone to be respected, regardless of the office he holds, is frankly pathetic.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,289 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Read an interesting article over the weekend that attempts to explain Trumps hold over the "average Joe" voter in the US.

    It uses the movie Caddyshack as an analogy

    Basically the argument goes that this is a battle of the "slobs" vs the "snobs"

    The 1980 film Caddyshack — in which a teenage golf caddy gets sucked into a power struggle between the bluebloods who run the country club and rich but ill-mannered real estate developer Al Czervik, played by Rodney Dangerfield — is pretty much a metaphor for the last decade of American politics. Voters are the caddy. The rude developer who insults ladies and buys his way into the country club is Donald Trump, right down to the accent. And the judge, doctor and various other professionals scandalized by his antics are the leaders of the Democratic Party.

    Spoiler alert: The caddies side with Dangerfield’s character, even though they work for tips and he is the kind of guy who can just buy their place of employment. In their defense, it is pretty fun to watch him stick it to the snobs.

    The underlying argument is that in order to beat him , the Democrats need to stop treating him as a "Threat to Democracy" or a "Threat to the system" because the voters don't actually like "The system" and aren't that interested in saving it, but if they frame Trump et al for what they are - Protectors of inherited wealth and the political wing of big business they will be more successful.

    Trumps own actions with Tariffs and everything else will help , but the messaging has to shift

    Look at Mamdani in NYC or even in some of what Newsome is doing via Social media lately , they are both gaining traction with voters by speaking directly to them and not "at them" in terms of protecting institutions etc.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,777 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    It could help the Dems by highlighting how little of the D.C swamp he's gotten rid of since his arrival there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,510 ✭✭✭amandstu


    How can anyone be sure that the mid term elections will take place?

    Or that they will be open

    I have read of a few methods they could use to ensure "victory"

    Could ice raids at polling time and provoking civil unrest (with agent provocateurs if necessary) along with putting their own people into the electoral commissions be part of their plan?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,703 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    They can't. The Democrats are just as committed to the system as Republicans. Moreso in the age of the Trump GOP. Voters might not like the system but Democrats aren't going to jettison it when the status quo dictates that all they need to do is be better than the GOP though they can't even jump that lowest of bars.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,777 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    I think now that Trump's ICE trick has got people's backs up, if he tries anything around election time, it carries with it the risk that the result at vote centres and ballot count centres would put the Jan 6th Capitol event in the ha'penny place. Concerned citizens might take note of Trump's statement that he will "executive order" their mail-in votes rights vanish. Masked people showing up at voting centres and interfering with the average citizen ability to cast the vote might rue it.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,289 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Civil unrest would play into his hands though.

    I do think that all his messing is likely to drive up voter participation , but if GOP controlled States shutter polling stations all over the place and block mail-in voting alongside the already wildly gerrymandered districts it might not be enough..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,777 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    As for Trump's cabinet members, I'm interested to know who the other member of the cabinet or White House backroom person Scott Bessent got aggressive toward in the past week. It's not the first time that he's threatened to deck some-one there.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,744 ✭✭✭Ozymandius2011


    SCOTUS has yet again rolled over. They are allowing Trump to "temporarily" remove a Democrat member of the Federal Trade Commission.

    This undermines a 90 year old SCOTUS precedent Humphreys vs Executor, which ruled the President (back then FDR) didn't have an unfettered right to fire members of state agencies like the FTC. The context in the 1930s was FDR facing resistance from conservatives opposing the New Deal.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,667 ✭✭✭✭briany


    At what point do we say the frog is dead, I wonder?

    If the Supreme Court overrules every other court in the USA, then Trump essentially does control the courts, along with Congress, and all the erstwhile independent governmental organisations are being staffed with loyalists. So, Trump is far, far closer to total power than is usually said, in my opinion.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,234 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    They haven't really rolled over, though. If the Constitution and laws of the US state that the POTUS can pretty much do whatever he wants, then on what basis could they really say he can't fire people?

    Trump has always declared that he wanted to be a dictator, and has run the US as a dictator in his second term. And there seem to be very few actual ways to stop him.

    You would think that the Dems, and plenty of non-affiliated or even GOP-affiliated, would put in place the legal resources needed to fight these rulings such that SCOTUS can't possibly make such rulings as to be outside the constitution. The fact that they haven't would lead me to believe that while many may not like these interpretations, they are within the guidelines of the law



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,667 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Opinion and reading of the law must come into it, otherwise these matters wouldn't be going to courts in the first place.

    Technically speaking, you could give Trump a third term and say it abides by the US Constitution since the amendment usually limiting presidential terms mentions being elected to the office more than twice. There is a loophole that Trump could get a third term via becoming Speaker of the House and then having the sitting POTUS and VP resign. Or declaring some sort of emergency and trying some fúckery that way. Or just pulling a Musk and having a special advisory position created for himself, called 'The Real President of the United States'. None of these would technically violate the US constitution, it could be argued and assented to, but they would all very much break the spirit the laws laid out in that document.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,510 ✭✭✭amandstu


    Just astonishing that we are even considering this.

    I am sure that the Magathugs will find different points of attack if one way seems counterproductive.

    Of course it may be too dificult if the American electorate grows a backbone or a sense of morality but so far I don't see them seeing any downsides or risk of fafo.

    Power corrupts and they don't want to hand it back (or care about the democratic process beyond what it can do for them)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,241 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    Neither.

    The fact that 51% of the jobs reported during the last year of the Biden administration never actually existed is far more worthy of reporting.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,897 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


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    Well it's a good thing Bill Clinton isn't my cult leader!

    Saves me coming up with some spurious excuse or defence....

    Release the files!

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,227 ✭✭✭Doc07


    Boring jobs stats /economics 😀…what do you have to say about the Epstein note from the Don?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,368 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    It looks like the Qatari bribe of a plane doesn't even save you from getting bombed



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 991 ✭✭✭The Phantom Jipper


    The numbers that make Biden look bad are credible. The ones that make Trump look bad are fake.



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,289 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Genuine question - But this seems to happen all the time.

    I've rarely seen info where they have revised these numbers upwards , from what I've read the number of responses to the survey that they use has been dropping for years or at least getting much slower so they constantly revise over and over as more data comes in.

    Is this the first time there has been a revision of this scale (in either direction) in one shot for a full year??

    Also , I don't think it's at all unreasonable to ask who created this report and when it was created given that it's coming out shortly after Trump fired the head of that Dept. without a shred of evidence for "making him look bad" and now we suddenly have a report that seems to support Trumps heretofore spurious claims of dodgy numbers..

    These are the risks of politising what should be a fairly colourless provision of data.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,100 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    HAH! Why is no one reporting on it…might it because the jobs numbers under Trump are tanking?



  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,289 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    Indeed and as I said above , these revisions always seem to be down and not up , so does this not potentially foreshadow a much larger drop off under Trump?

    If his chosen lackey to run the Bureau of Labour Statistics remains independent of course



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,777 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    Within a month of Sundays it would never happen but humans do surprise. I'm waiting for some person of high rank within the civil side of Government to be driving home or going around town by car or other method to meet some ICE Reps and come out the other side pissed off at what happened.



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