Presidential Election 2025

She's a career politician. And as you say yourself, calm down. And a former Labour Councillor.

And not remotely the type of candidate I am talking about.

Excuse my French but jaysus how much clearer do I have to be.

I am not pretending.

I am making a point on a discussion board.

Its her life and she's entitled to do what she wants with it, but looking at her previous political results she hasn't done that well to say the least. I suppose the next step had to be run for president.😌

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And that'd be something else of what type?

A new way of selecting a candidate, like as Francie said, maybe like a Citizen's Assembly?

Where do you draw a line, does this new body have the right to endorse the nomination of more than one candidate?

Where's the democratic right of all the other maybe few hundred candidates?

If you qualify as is now, be an Irish citizen of 35 years or older, why has this new body got the right to tell any candidate they think one or two of them have more rights than any other?

When you sit down and think of it the only solution is to let everybody who qualifies to have the right to go forward for the election. There's so many people willing to see the problem but can't come up with a justifiable solution, as in all or most situations.

Are you talking about McGuinness in the 2011 Presidential election? He got about 13% if I recall. The only way it could be described as "pretty well" is in comparison with the Ni Riadh debacle in 2018

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I'd agree with you on this.

Also, much as I find lots of youth annoying, I can't see why restricted to 35 and over. And maybe we should allow anyone to can gather 20,000 signatures to run. If that opens the arena to the likes of McGregor, so be it.

Yes, I think 35 is odd but then the constitution was written in a very sexist, patriarchial and conservative era.

Again I'll question how do you verify this?

That’s just fake arrogance tbh.

Why would you think a loon is any more likely to get past a selection committee made up of non political party members?

Nobody is talking about a free for all.

SF have the power to nominate their own candidate and put them on the ballot paper. It would seem a bit nuts to let that chance slip and leave the two government parties to probably fight out the election (assuming Connolly is not going to win).

Oh really? So what are you talking about? Describe the model of in-between that you are thinking of?

Who is this selection committee? Who selects the selection committee? How do you ensure it isn't corrupted, that it doesn't become a clientelist, politicised, rotten entity?

Why would their subjective opinion of who gets to stand have any more validity that the system the Constitution provides for?

Its a recipe for disaster, and I think you know it is, and you're just spoofing for the sake of being contrary.

I was reading the list of speakers at the kerry CoCo meeting and an outline of their speeches. They all had a list of different things they wanted to affect if elected. The president can't really in any way affect most of the changes they are talking about anyway.

Outside of that, there is a route for anybody that wants to get elected to represent the people of Ireland. They pick a constituency, pay their deposit and put themselves forward for Dail Eireann. There's no blocker to anyone who wants to have their right to represent the people, only the votes of the people they claim to want to represent. But it is open to everybody with an interest.

Even at local level there's Co Councils. FFs there's no blocker to trying to get elected to represent people, just contrarians who claim there is for the sake of argument.