Getting around Galway

Nobody is saying don't build anything. We're saying build things that'll improve the situation, not worsen it.

What are you on about? Are you posting from the pub?

Yes I'm against a plan that they predict will make things worse. No that doesn't mean I'm against plans that might improve things. It's really not complicated. And no I'm not allowing or blocking anything (but it's sweet that you think I'm so influential). I'm expressing an opinion. One based on reading some of the stuff they've published. And you're still offering nothing but emotive rambling based on feeing like you're right.

Ya drop them an email. Or read some of the extensive reports they've published and are freely available.

Ya there's a good chance it'll be built. They're literally crippling the city for over a decade to try and force it through. Still doesn't make it a good plan and I'm still against it for that reason. If by some miracle it's built and we're all able to get around in no time then I'll gladly say I was wrong. Zero issue. Because I'm only making my judgement based on what they've published.

Ya I don't know you and don't care what you're qualifications are. They won't impress me whatever they are. I'm basing it purely off what you have posted which is rambling, hard to follow, lacking in any kind of substantive analysis and full of emotive nonsense about "normal Joe's" and the "orange order" (still confused about that one). If you've some amazing qualifications in you back pocket, show them off by demonstrating you learnt something while getting them.

You've complained the methodology wasn't available but still haven't looked it up when it was pointed out that it was (happy to ignore your confusion between data and methodology as a misunderstood). If you had looked you'd know your theory on me having read it all is ludicrous because there's probably hundreds of thousands of pages. But I have informed myself on the pieces I had questions over. Which you can also do but don't for some reason. Maybe that doesn't make me a "normal Joe" but I like to make informed conclusions where possible and not just work off notions (not using the word feelings because that seems to bother you but it's the same things)

I've never lodged an objection to this or anything else but feel free to tell yourself that. Its often easier to convince yourself that anyone that disagrees with your opinion must be some extremist nut. Couldn't possible be that others have done some reading that you won't and made an informed conclusion that differs from your notions.

I don't think the road will be built, I said there's a good chance it will. Very different things. Your reading comprehension might need work before tackling the big documents.

Anyway, I'll bow out now. As I said before, no point in trying to discuss things with people emotionally attached to their presupposed conclusion. Less so when they're in denial about what they're doing. If an actual discussion on the freely available methodology breaks out then I might join back in but I won't hold my breath.

Uh-huh https://www.irishexaminer.com/opinion/commentanalysis/arid-41693324.html

They were quick enough to take the tenner annual sub off me a few weeks ago!!

The Bóthar Stiofáin Cycle Network is starting construction on Monday 8th of September. (12 months of construction)

https://www.galwaycity.ie/services/active-travel/active-travel-services/bothar-stiofain-cycle-network

Similar scheme to the Ballybane Road/CastlePark Road which is currently under construction.

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Wait till he hears it's 5m and not just a few hundred grand! I do hope they connect up the end of Bóthar Stiofáin to the cemetry at some stage.

What I don't understand is why 2 bus lanes were not installed either side of that Ballybane road. 2 different bus routes use that road, and there was plenty of open space on both sides to install a bus lane in each direction. They dug up an entire wall and re-built about a metre away, just to widen the already large footpath and call it a cycle lane. I'm all for installing proper cycle lanes, but that long stretch of road has ample opportunity to put in bus lanes too. The bus drivers wanted bus lanes installed there too, from speaking to a few about it.

Comparing the incomparable, applying appropriate warning

Grem

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I think there is an opportunity for sure to add bus priority measures - a cheaper one perhaps is to put in a bus gate at McHugh Avenue. Allow the buses to bypass the car traffic clogged junctions.

Crazy that this dangerous design prioritising cyclists over bus users is going ahead. They’re learning the lesson in the UK that they’re dangerous by design, but not here where the “activists” are now embedded in the Council as “Active Travel” promoters

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cm20x7lk83vo.amp