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Presidential Election 2025

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,118 ✭✭✭gifted


    He's still a nobody....

    The choice of candidates been put up to the people of Ireland is pretty poor and all it does is highlight the change required so that anybody can run for president.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,127 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    You misunderstand what I was saying. Before anyone was counting (because there was nobody else to count at the time), when AK stood against Connolly, that hurt her chances, because AK has his supporters and the Labour party is not united as one behind her.

    It opens up the possibility of other independents securing nomination, despite the Government parties whipping their councillors to prevent anyone else getting through to face the voters.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,883 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Anybody can run for president. Join a party, get support that way. Or lobby the local authorities and get support that way. Start your campaign well out from the election, get a groundswell of support and you'll be hard to ignore.

    But don't expect to get nominated if you are a "celebrity" or somebody who has come to the idea with weeks to go. No preparation, no laying of ground work? Don't expect to get nominated.

    The European elections have shown what a farce it is if the threshold to entry is too low (23 candidates in Dublin and Ireland south last time out, 27 in Midlands north West), there should be an element of difficulty in getting onto the paper.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,799 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    On the run of it percentagewise a good SF candidate could get over the line first if Connollys vote transferred back to them, given that in the present field she would be first eliminated. So Humphreys or the FF candidate becomes president. Either way, even if she survives to 2nd place the transfers will put her out. SF have to grow a pair and field a candidate to open up the race!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,587 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    You misunderstand what I was saying. Before anyone was counting (because there was nobody else to count at the time), when AK stood against Connolly, that hurt her chances, because AK has his supporters and the Labour party is not united as one behind her.

    People in FG don't support Humphreys and indicated support for Kelly, ditto in FF. No biggie that there is someone in Labour dissenting. Less of a biggie when the same guy has a penchant for dissent.



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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 44,286 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Are you suggesting that the system needs to change because the likes of a rapist cant get a foot in or are you suggesting that under a different process more potential candidates would step forwards (and if so, what form would that different process take)?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 2,475 ✭✭✭Cyclingtourist


    We don't have the final line-up yet or had any TV candidate debates, so polls should be taken with a large grain of salt.

    All eyes should be on SF at the moment. If they run a serious candidate, unlike the last time, they will have a good chance.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 369 ✭✭rdser


    He's a great fit for an aviation job so..

    President? Not so much.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,699 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Ah I see.

    So when Connolly was getting cosy with the Assad regime would that be someone who is representative?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,699 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    Surprised Humphreys isnt a fluent Irish speaker, every TD and Senator should be fluent in the language.

    And a presidential candidate should definitely be able to speak Irish.

    MacDonald got caught rotten back in 2018 when she couldn't answer a question from a TG4 reporter.

    Just shows what hypocrites the shinners are, banging on about a UI and their leader couldn't answer a question in Irish.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,638 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    SF have it in the bag now if they want it, they just need to go all in with a high profile candidate.

    On the run of it percentagewise a good SF candidate could get over the line first 

    Not seeing who this could be other than Big Mac herself. Maybe Pearse Doherty but I'd be very surprised if he was interested…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,209 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Yes, either of those would win. Hard to imagine they could underestimate the chance they have here. A presidency focused on increasing the links between north and south, paving the road for reunification.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,883 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Her overall politics of the left would be shared (to greater and lesser degrees) with the likes of Labour, social Democrats and PBP. Hence they nominated her.

    Her supporting or at least engaging with Syria is a mistake and something she needs to properly account for. But it's not her defining trait. Whereas Maria Steen has 1 element to her politics (catholic fundamentalist, anti abortion, anti divorce, etc). If she was a broader politician then maybe she might get some support elsewhere.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,638 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    residency focused on increasing the links between north and south, paving the road for reunification.

    I'm not convinced a president can achieve much of substance to that end. Certainly nothing like what an SF taoiseach could do



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,209 ✭✭✭jackboy


    They can normalise the idea of reunification in the south, which will be useful for a future referendum campaign. A campaign started cold with a SF government would be difficult. If we are talking about a 10 year plan for referendums then a SF presidency now would be very useful.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,127 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    People in FG not supporting Heather Humphreys after Mairéad McGuinness withdrew is not the same as the previous leader of the Labour party publicly going against the leader of the parties (Baciks) chosen candidate and also giving scathing character portrayals of said candidate all over the media.

    FF don't have a real candidate of their own, so it's not surprising other TDs have voiced support for other candidates, but again, that's not the same as publicly riding rough shod over the parties choice, or the leader of the parties choice.

    So, I think it is a "biggie", because had Connolly received the full support of Labour, including AK, she would have had a head start and been above the other candidates. The lack of support has damaged her chances and stolen the lead from her.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,587 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Before Kelly spoke she was on 18%. After Kelly spoke she is on 20%.

    I'd say she wants Kelly to keep talking. 😀



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 335 ✭✭tarvis




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,853 ✭✭✭blackwhite


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    They ran two polls. One with just the declared candidates so far (ie no SF name) and another with MLMD as the SF candidate.

    Any SF candidate will knock a big dent into Connolly, putting her out on the first count.

    I’d suspect the don’t knows will either 1) not turn out to vote or 2) favour the three bigger names.

    Based on above - first round would have three names all on similar enough numbers after first round.

    Connolly would push MLMD into a c7-9% lead after 2nd round, and then whichever of Humphries or Gavin had fallen to third would push the other over the line.

    Expect we’d see a result where the winner didn’t actually break the 50% mark by final count - and with a pretty low turnout



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,127 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    I don't know where you are pulling those figures from. Kelly spoke out about Connolly before the other names were in the hat, so she couldn't have been on 18% if there was nobody else to count.

    I'm not talking about the events of the last week, i'm talking about when Kelly first spoke out against Connolly and what she stood for/against.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,209 ✭✭✭jackboy


    I would take zero notice of those polls. The campaign is theoretical at this stage. For instance, as Gavin is a FF candidate he will not be allowed to speak his mind or be honest during a campaign, so he will be wiped out during a campaign.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,587 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    16th Aug. Ireland Thinks poll:

    A new Sunday Independent/Ireland Thinks poll puts Humphreys ahead of the pack at 19 per cent, just one point ahead of Independent Catherine Connolly.

    7th Sept Ireland Thinks poll:

    Connolly is on 20%



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,127 ✭✭✭...Ghost...


    And when did AK first speak about his lack of Support for Connolly? I heard the story on the radio last month before I travelled away for work, which was Aug 11th. I don't know the exact date I heard the news, but it was late July to early August.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,799 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    I think with just three candidates as it stands, either the FF or FG candidates win. The only chance of that not happening is a SF candidate in the race. Just depends on whether the Shinners have the guts to try to take all or basically destroy the career of one of their top politicians with a loss?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,676 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    That opinion poll last night must surely be giving SF an incentive to run a very high profile candidate and not another Ní Riada. Looks like the electorate are finding Gavin, Connolly and Humphreys rather underwhelming.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,799 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    I agree. SF have a great opportunity this time around I feel. Maybe Marylou will be tempted. But it's still a gamble because of transfers.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,638 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    I'm not convinced the incentive is much stronger than it was a week ago. It's been clear for a while that Connolly is a meh candidate with limited appeal for the soft left. Poll also suggests combined FF-FG vote is holding up okay. If Mary Lou joined the race she would probably be favourite but it's far from



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,401 ✭✭✭jmcc


    The DKs are the main issue. They will decide the election. The support for the declared FF/FG candidates broadly follow their party support. The usual redistrbuition of the DKs as done in a GE poll may not be reliable this time as it is a personality contest. The Sindo is being the Sindo and just trying to create headlines about SF. Without SF, it looks like a battle between FF and FG.

    Regards…jmcc



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,695 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    There is a shot across the bows for declared and potential left wing candidates in the Sunday Independent poll where just 3% of respondents said a candidate's view on Gaza was important to them which is interesting.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,799 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    I posted a link from the indo about Gavin being pursued by FF. Most on here laughed it off at the time. They do proper journalism from time to time. On the SF issue, it probably suits them too. A big candidate launch close to the lose of nominations grabs all the publicity close to the launch of the campaign proper would be a scene stealer.



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