Dairy Chitchat 4, an udder new thread.

They resurfaced 160kms of roadway in China with no humans, just AI. It's going to be everywhere.

https://youtu.be/LxsJ7_qyrbs?si=v7wEeNeRR0Co36XL

And while China powers ahead the morons here wouldn't let you put up a dog kennel

to the poster with the problem. I see there is now a part time course for green cert holders to go on and get a level 7 and level 8 in agriculture. It’s part time, two evenings a week and the odd Saturday.
the last thing you want for yourself is to be led along and as the years pass you are getting pushed more into a corner imo. It would be a great fall back for you with your interest in agriculture.
it’s not as easy to walk away for a few years either as some people are saying. In fairness you are in a great position but it’s a terrible pity the older two generations won’t be pragmatic and talk things out with you.
another thing to be careful of is the fair deal, especially with your grandfathers age and now even your fathers. Put it this way, they are not playing ball with you so if you stay and a substantial nursing home bill has to be paid you might be forced to sell land which would obviously leave you with a reduced farm size, when all the land is wanted going forward due to nitrates. And that could happen twice.
At 30k a year, I wouldn’t pity you if you had an agreement going forward and knew where you stood. A trust would help keep all sides happy, or chatting to a solicitor, but by the sounds of it there’s no talking to them. I know all about that with one parent, Lucily the other couldn’t be better.

i was looking at stuff being picked up today and as i said to myself the cows in the gaza strip will have better fodder for the winter ,,,,

she’s definitely looking well alright. Like to keep my own clean as well

Them boys making it arent stupid i used to think they were its very high in protein and mixed with maize will be gd feed on its own its rubbish

We have about 6 here running through the different bits of woodland all the way up to Wilson’s. A friend of mine that lives beside Nicholas gainfords shoots them for me. Gets 1-3 a year

I think that may possibly be going for a large bbq this evening.

i cant leave this go without reply……i did not know you were around my direction yesterday pity i would have loved to meet up🤥 but anyway if you go to the bother of growing maize mixing it with docks,, creeping bent, dead grass ,weeds,is not going to do anything for your costly maize in a diet feeder or the cows diet. stupid is what i would call you if you are doing it, rant over dont bother to reply 🤐

Is that inclusive of getting a tams grant, you'll never be finished spending money on a dairy farm, to be honest, re the tams I reckon that money pot will be run dry next year, the sheer scale of solar applications is swallowing up all the funding...

I reckon 6k a cow would be a minimum spend for the above, if roadways and water/padddock infrastuture is included, your costings seem very low unless you have easily convertable sheds, even then unless you get a very understanding builder that will work it all in-together it will still cost alot of money...

Your working of 3k a cow is it, 200k borrowed at 6% interst over 15 years

Will parlour and cubicles accommodation be new sheds our worked into existing, did advisor ask about your current power supply, if your working of a domestic supply like 15kva transformer, you'd want to be applying for a upgrade now

admire your ambition ….you can add on to your projections there as always overspends …not much wiggle room there financially ….have you other income /off farm job to add to pot …there will be money to be spent yearly on a farm with the endless red tape and regs now involved ….you also need to look at what you’ll need to take out of farm ….wider/kids /mortgage etc …when I started in 2010 I borrowed heavy to set up yard/farm …no regrets doing it but was possible back then ….that was based on 60 cow farm with beef to 100 cows with no beef now …..would I do it now …don’t know …dero looking very dodge in next 3/5 years and compliance /buildings cost are gone crazy

i forget whether you said you were working off farm or not?

how are you fixed for machinery, are you going to be reliant on contractors?

is there any siblings in the long grass waiting for a handout? some eye opening posts here about that in the last couple of days.

im edging towards whats the point. if you has steady off farm income your going to be a slave to the bank and your personal life will suffer. by the time youve it paid off you may have job satisfaction but your body and your mind might tell a different story. Dreams are sometimes just dreams..