Israel/Palestine Thread

well said.

I wouldn't trust those five eyes countries or France. A false flag operation may be launched by Israel where they sacrifice some of their civilians or soldiers or more media coverage of the beheaded babies hanging on clothes lines while Hamas are inside raping the women, cooking dinner, and having baths.

The owner is Sylvan Adams, Israeli - Canadian. He recently came out with comments unsurprisingly supporting the campaign in Gaza and is more concerned about how those nasty people elsewhere in the world are, for some strange reason, portraying Israel in a bad light.

"Israel is “failing miserably” in the communications war against Hamas and needs to take the deteriorating situation, fueled by a trillion-dollar campaign by Qatar, much more seriously, the president of the World Jewish Congress’s Israel Region said on Wednesday.

“On the physical war, we have done miracles with things that seem like science fiction, but on the communications war, we are failing miserably,” 

https://www.jns.org/israel-failing-miserably-in-pr-war-against-hamas-sylvan-adams-says/

Not surprising the team are getting so much push back. One of the riders ended his contract early a couple weeks back but yet to be confirmed if the reasons were anything to do with having a genocidal state plastered on the front of his jersey

I don't want anyone hurt/injured but with all these flotillas on the way to Gaza unfortunately in the sick world we live in its going to take a white westerner(thats not press or humanitarian so they cant say it was a "mistake") to get injured/attacked by Isreal for any politician too show any balls and see some real action taken,not talk….Its just the sad way it is….The Israelis know this and will go all out to be "respectful" and by the book but maybe one IDF clown will make a mistake and get too heavy handed,i know people will look back at what happened in 2010 but recording technology has come a million miles since….…..It amazes me the people sh1ting on these convoys while they themselves are at home watching TV in their pajama's scratching their arses…

This lunchtime news had images of a high rise building in a Gaza city being razed to the ground. It had been home to many of the dispossessed - and the huge pall of smoke and debris that enveloped adjacent buildings was frankly terrifying. Anyone in the vicinity would choke to death if the debris didn’t get them.

A commentator on the news item said the only hope for an end to the slaughter was the USA - the world superpower!
Looking at the current administration in Washington the only super I see is

superficial, super stupid. super ego and super delusions of grandeur. People are dying across the world , day after day and the so called ‘powers that be’ seem mere naked emperors.

Footage of the bombing, Israel's defence minister announces the gates of hell are opened, as if they have not been imposing hell for the last two years.

Yes but polls now show only 32% support Israels war in Gaza and a recent poll I think mentioned in the Guardian showed 43% believe Israel is committing genocide, 29% don't and 28% don't know. 21% of Republicans and I think 65% of Democrats say its committing genocide. Just 8% of Democrats say it isn't.

Public opinion is changing in the US, but the billionaire control of US politics through SuperPACs means it may take time to be reflected in the White House and Congress. I don't think Trump will listen - when does he ever listen to anyone?

Israels biggest supporters are actually the Evangelical Christians. Christian Zionism in the USA is older than Jewish Zionism. Many Jews before the Holocaust sought assimilation. This is actually still a debate in some circles. Some Zionists including in Israel express concern about American Jewish assimilation from intermarriage.

Christian Zionism in the US historically has believed in the Scofield Bible, produced in 1909 and a second edition in 1917 (probably because of the Balfour Declaration). It divides history into "dispensations". It predicted the creation of Israel, and that the Second Coming of Christ would happen after a big war in the Middle East. Most Evangelical Christians in the US are Dispensationalists, and they hear all this in their megachurches. Thats why they are opposed to peace efforts in the Middle East, and support warmongering Israeli rightwing leaders like Netanyahu, and arms sales to Israel and military and economic aid etc. Dispensationalism also believes that in the "End Times", the Jews will convert to Christianity, and that the "Rapture" (saved souls going to heaven and the rest destroyed in an apocalyse or something) will happen.

These are not fringe beliefs in the US.

Scofield Reference Bible - Wikipedia

I think Starmer will be handed a cheque, or a threat.

An IDF spokesperson told BBC Verify, without providing evidence, that: "In certain cases, entire neighbourhoods in the Gaza Strip are converted into combat complexes which are utilized for ambushes, housing command and control centres and weapon warehouses, combat tunnels, observation posts, firing positions, booby-trapped houses, and for setting explosives in the streets."

It's difficult to provide evidence that doesn't exist.