organic farming

You are dead right Bass no margin in Organics with meal cost. Still know Organic lads with Rolls Royces land that can nearly finish from grass alone. Same lads importing dairy slurry and wonder if it gets a bit of pig slurry mixed in in the dairys lads tank but that is just me wondering. Problem for Organics is dairy bred stock not out there for him to buy that an ordinary farmer can if he decides suckler cattle too dear. All that said lots lads getting 10k plus from Organics so you cannot have it every way. Those bulls at 2100 would be worth 4k a carcass a year down the line in the ordinary trade.

We combined a plot of pea/barley combi crop two weeks ago. Yielded 2.2 t/acre. Going to keep enough for our own cattle and sell the rest. What would you recommend sowing behind it? Could winter oats be an option if I could secure a market for it?

Thanks. I'll touch base with them and suss it out. Do they offer a price in advance?

Not from the department has to be a level 3 to get a fine from the department. You just got a slap on the wrist, if it happens again next year it will be upgraded tho so don't let that happen. Never heard of a common age monitoring fee is this the first year you were charged?

No.

It's a funny world where you think it's a narrow minded view to focus on production in one's business. Don't get me wrong, I think Organics has it's place but don't look down your nose at farmers who want to make a success of their business.

production isn’t just about output, it also needs to take into account inputs and leakage. These are factors often forgotten by people who throw the non productive argument at organics

Maybe consider just sowing plantain and chicory into it. Graze tight, scratch and broadcast and roll. You have grass and clover already. MSS is really about the interaction of grasses, clovers and herbs. The more varieties of each species the better.

Yeah, the difference for organic beef v regular feedlot is mainly in the carbon footprint. That, along with omega 3 levels are the two key differences. Their is another categorisation required to set that environmentally friendly beef a apart, similar to the difference between wild and farmed salmon.

Market for Organic Weanlings is always weaker going into the winter due to the cost of over wintering, you need to keep an eye on conventional prices as sometimes organic Weanlings sell for less than Conventional going into the winter.

I always winter mine, but I have the sheds and can out winter them if needed. I castrate them too and seen a big price difference over Bulls in spring, a lot of lads want to pick up Summer grazing cattle with little or no work to be done only open the door of the trailer and let them off.

I have fed red clover. Think it has the ability to finish cattle, really rocket fuel. Maybe supplement with an energy ration incl minerals. Did not test it.