Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

You know full well that it is what Trump would have originally wanted as well.

Probably crying into his nappy as we speak.

The name of the game, Trump family richer by $5bn, most of it is paper but they are total insiders and will gradually cash out and hype again and again.

Yes, unfortunately their dumb voters won't see it till it is much too late (if ever!).

Perhaps when their kids find themselves fighting and dying as pawns in some superpower struggle directed by the true rulers overseas (in Washington or Beijing or New Dehli!) as has been fate of unlucky small countries in South Amercia, ME and Africa in 20th C, but not Western European countries as yet…

The politicians like Farage, Orbán etc. would much rather rule as someone else's corrupt local baron, in control of their fiefdom, while they do obeisance to the real powers (Trump's US, Xi's China etc) than cooperate through the existing structures like the EU or new ones developed for challenges facing us. They are useless IMO + will sell all of us down the river.

A great buncha lads.

It seems to me that Trump seems not to be implicated in anything that is known to the victims but that if the information that they do have is made public then those who are implicated will have their own defences to lay out -and Trump may well be caught up in this unravelling.

Else why his reluctance to let justice play out (as his appointees promised)?

He is acting guilty but I am not sure what he might be guilty of.(just being his own shithole self is guilty enough for me but perhaps there is something specific in this case and it would,of course be very satisfying to see him caught up in it )

Ps can he deflect his way out of this by stirring up civil disorder in democrat cities?

The rise of Trump reflects the Right's frustration with 60 years of losing the cultural battles. The Dobbs's decision overturning Roe v Wade is part of a reaction against that. The attacks on voting rights started with the Shelby County SCOTUS decision in 2012, which removed the DOJ's veto on changes in electoral laws in states and localities with a history of racial disenfranchisement.

Also there is a rise in White Nationalism. Taboos like questioning Martin Luther King and the Civil Rights movement are being broken e.g. Charlie Kirk saying the Civil Rights Act was wrong and opposing Martin Luther King Day being a public holiday. Trump removed the bust of MLK from the Oval Office. During his first term there were rumours he had done this, which were untrue, but I suspect it was considered, given what has now happened.

Trump is a symptom of this, not the underlying cause. There are similar issues in countries like France, and the rise of the AFD in Germany. The current Italian government comes from the Far Right, though there are too Far Right parties in the government and they don't necessarily agree on everything (one has a pro-Russian history, the main one is pro-Ukraine).

The US primary system has weakened political "gatekeepers" who were party bosses who could keep the extremes out of influence in the Republican Party. Many Establishment Republicans opposed to the growth of the Far Right were pushed out in Trump's first term, such as Senator Bob Corker, Senator Jeff Flake, Senator Ben Sasse in Nebraska. In his second term, Senator Mitt Romney didn't run again in 2024, and former GOP Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell is retiring in 2026.

The two US parties were more ideologically diverse in the Civil Rights era. More Republicans than Democrats voted for the Civil Rights and Voting Rights Act in the Congress. House Republical Leader Everett Dirksen played an important role in that. But in 1964 the party embarked on the policy of pandering to anti Civil Rights discourse in the White South. It was unfortunately electorally successful in Presidential elections. The question was, could this be sustained when the US increasingly non-White?

In 2016, Hillary Clinton's campaign made the mistake of ignoring the largely white states in the Rust Belt states, assuming this was yesterday's electorate and the "diverse" states would now elect liberal candidates. This backfired as Whites are still 70% of the electorate, and about 60% of them vote Republican. Even in Obama's landslide in 2008, he only vote 43% of the White vote. Some advisors begged her to campaign in the Blue Wall states but she refused until the final days of the campaign.

I think Hillary Clinton lacks her husband's political skills. He moved to the Centre (which I accept is much more rightwing in the US than in Europe) and won conservative states like Florida, Arkansas, Tennessee, Louisiana and West Virginia. Thats unthinkable today. They have a shot in North Carolina because Biden only lost it by 1%. Virginia has changed dramatically because of the DC civil servants and agency workers living in its northern counties, which led to Obama winning it in 2008 for the first time for a Democrat since 1964.

Saint Bill's probably in it and others

I see Dr Goodtime has his military rank reinstated.

Goes to show... No matter what sh1t you pull, lie about the weight and height and overall health of the current POTUS, you'll get what you want...