3yr old boy from Dublin feared dead - Garda & Tusla

When i seen this headline I just assumed it was that other well known case.

Can't believe we now have a 2nd child going missing for years. How does that even happen? When you have a child born, so many people know about it. Just think of the last child you had born, how many folk knew about it? Probably dozens at least, maybe hundreds if you work in a big place.

How can that child then go missing for years and you can continue on without being asked about it?

That came to mind when I was reading the details of the case.

How many people knew this kid either in a professional or social capacity and none of them thought it strange or worrying that he disappeared.

And then decided not to do anything about it.

Reading between the lines of the RTE news report that there's a lot of sensitivity surrounding the case suggests that it is not quite the scandal it seems.

I'm gonna guess that the family involved are not from here and there's a cultural difference involved. Sympathy towards them has been expressed.

The thing that seems to have triggered the check is an application for Child Benefit or possibly a compliance check by the DSP on Child Benefit eligibility.
That check involves confirming the school the child attends and in this case? It seems that when the school was pinged for confirmation the lack of attendance became apparent.

I know from experience that things like having 3 consonants in a row in a surname 😉can trigger a compliance check. Even if your surname is Irish and you're Irish born. As will being foreign born. To be eligible for Child Benefit, the child must be ordinarily resident in the state and the parent must meet the HRC. The DSP check a sample of claimants every year and this particular case may have gone undetected for quite a while, until the claimant was caught in a compliance sweep.

Hopefully, this is an instance of welfare fraud. The child is born to foreign parents and has returned "home" whilst the parents continued to claim CB. Given the escalation by the Gardaí and their suspicions of foul play that's unlikely but, I do hope it's a happier outcome than poor Kyran has had.

There should be an EU wide school system that just records that children are in a regular arrangement, it might take a few months (which might be too late), but it would ensure that it did not take years.

Some of you appear to have an extremely naive, unrealistic view of the lives of some , quite a few actually, children living in Ireland at the moment.

Lots of children live at high risk of danger of neglect and abuse at the hands of their nearest and dearest.
The vast majority of abused and neglected children are victims of immediate family.
Systematic carefully hidden cruelty. Why this goes over peoples heads is a mystery to me.

The government and Tusla are easy targets for many in cases like this, and lessons should be learned, but let's not forget the real perpetrators in this case, and the previous child murder case.

The thread title even seems to apportion blame to the Guards and Tusla. Why not also add the word 'family', or 'parents'.

Plenty of kids in my area live for long periods with grandparents or just one parent and then are not seen around again as the kids go to live with the other parent or in different circumstances. If those people keep to themselves then usually no one is going to query it.

Many Irish people and most political parties rejected simple id cards so we are unlikely to bring in a German style system of having to carry id and register with the authorities every time you move house. Without that people are pretty much free to move kids around the EU as they please. Unless they are claiming gov support the government will have little way of knowing anything about the child.

A lot of people mentioning “school”- but it’s estimated this child disappeared around age 3 and 1/2 - too early for school. If this family are not integrated into their community, and if like some families you come across in Ireland, stick very much to their own internal family contacts and shun the outside world, then it’s very possible and likely not one Irish person “missed” this child.