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The Traitors Ireland

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭lorcand1990


    I was pleasantly surprised with that, i was expecting the cast to be more annoying and full of influencers, but not really much of that.. kicking 2 out straight away really set the trend, perhaps they will come back later

    I'll definitely keep watching



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,655 ✭✭✭Hippodrome Song Owl


    What I still haven't fully understood from previous series is the fact the last group to enter breakfast are always the ones who were considered for murder the previous night. Yet it's never flagged by players on the show, so obviously it's done different in filming. But how, since you can see everyone else there gathered together waiting to see who will enter and who is gone?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,209 ✭✭✭Cosmo Kramer


    They just recruit more traitors from the faithfuls if that happens. But it's a flaw in the format. There's no real benefit to finding a traitor early on because they just get replaced anyway. So if a faithful thinks they've found one it's a better move to keep quiet about it until later on in the show.

    Enjoyed it though, they mostly seem like a nice bunch of regular people, always prefer when these shows just pick nice, normal people instead of wannabe celebrities that play up to the cameras. The task was a bit cheap, just rolling barrels around the castle grounds, but I suppose not a lot more you can do early on to include 22 people at once.

    A few genuinely fully moments also, like half the contestants saying they were trying to save for a deposit for a house and whoever was rolling the barrels and said "it's like f****** Temple Run".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,405 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    They can cut and chop the scenes - you would never get a wide angle of everyone when someone enters the breakfast room (except later in the game when not many are left)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,213 ✭✭✭Gru


    Pretty much they're carted away to separate accomodation so no one can mingle between days. Traitors are presumably brought back to film their parts.

    It's the same in the British version but they pretend to go upstairs to sleep. They also sleep offsite.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,213 ✭✭✭Gru


    On the topic or the last 2/3 to enter. It doesn't appear that contestants have twigged this yet before entering the game. We'll see from tomorrow if they follow the same format for the Irish show but I do wonder if they'll need to switch it up for the British version.

    It's a point discussed a lot more often since their last series ended so I would expect players going forward will understand how the game runs a little better from a production point of view.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,570 ✭✭✭lorcand1990


    A plus point to catching a traitor early, even if they get replaced, is that traitors, normally, will not want fellow traitors voted out. So you could try find out if anyone was attempting to save the traitor that got voted out

    If I was playing though even as a faithful I agree its almost better to play cards close to chest, as you dont want to be killed by the traitors for being seen to be trying to figure things out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭Homesick Alien


    Yeah but the people who come in last know they're the last to come in. So as the previous poster said, if they do it the same way as previous series to build the tension as people arrive for breakfast, then if you're last in you know you were on the chopping block.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,655 ✭✭✭Hippodrome Song Owl


    But I think you do see the whole group as they enter, and they'll be naming who hasn't arrived yet and discussing it while they wait.



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,938 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    Very solid first episode, pleasantly surprised the cast seem to be normal people and not full of influences or 'celebrities'.

    Katelyn seems like she'll be the best traitor at this early stage whilst Eamon looks like he'll be the first to be rumbled.

    Liked the father/son twist, I actually didn't see it coming. The two banished at the outset will likely return next week some time.

    Think Siobhán is doing a good job so far, and I'm looking forward to seeing how it develops. So far so good!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,098 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    I never saw this before so I didn't know what to expect.

    I think I'll stay at it.

    Don't think I'll bother with the after program tough.

    Can somebody explain to me how do the faithful vote out the traitors?



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 8,480 Mod ✭✭✭✭HildaOgdenx


    There is a round table every night where they all argue about who they think are the traitors. Then they all have to nominate someone and the person who receives the most votes is banished. If it's a traitor, happy days, but they often get it wrong. 😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,655 ✭✭✭Hippodrome Song Owl


    Each night they have a roundtable discussion where people can air their suspicions, call people out, defend themselves. There will have been small group chats and backstabbing during the day that often lead to ganging up and everyone jumping on a bandwagon of who to suspect. The traitors will of course be trying to manipulate things too.

    At the end of the roundtable each person writes down who they want to banish, then holds it up one by one and maybe say why. The person with the most votes then walks out, and as they leave they say whether they were really a Faithful or a Traitor.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,098 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    Thanks, good to know.

    So, if all tree traitors get banished fairly fast what happens then.

    It's like I get it but I don't.

    I find that whole father son connection kind of strange.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,503 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    A new traitor is picked from the remaining players.

    You should watch the UK Traitors, its very good.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 842 ✭✭✭False Prophet


    It's not the case.

    You often have1 traitors as the last one back or in the last group. So you never know if the people arriving last are traitors or are faithful that are considered for murder.

    Also might have 3 possible for murder but 1 of the 3 arrives back earlier.

    So they do mix it up. ( granted for the first one I would guess that last group are all innocent)

    But even if they vote out a traitor, any faithful could become a traitor so cant track it.

    plus they add other tricks to the game where nobody gets murdered or they have 3 in jail where 1 gets murdered the following night etc. So faithful are kept guessing



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭cleanfarmer2025


    Do the traitors get to vote someone out as part of the faithfuls selection aswell?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭cleanfarmer2025


    And I still think it's a load of rubbish that the father/son are in it together.

    Are we really meant to believe that both the father and son were going into the show and neither of them told the other?? Like who does that???



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,377 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Yes- at the round table, everyone has a vote - and of course, everyone is looking to appear as a faithful, whether they are or not.
    The traitors decide their faithful to be banished at their own traitors meet- and they’re definitely gone- but the whole group come together also to vote out someone - as the show progresses this can be great TV where people become convinced X person is a traitor



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,377 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    “Don't think I'll bother with the after program tough”

    As the show gets moving this can be as equally entertaining and you’ll get more insight as to how the group is thinking - their reactions when they find out who’s a traitor are also great tv



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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 8,480 Mod ✭✭✭✭HildaOgdenx


    Everyone votes at the round table. None of the faithful know who the traitors are. The traitors have to lie if anyone votes for them, and claim to be faithfuls.

    Then whoever gets the most votes is banished. They reveal just as they leave whether they were a traitor or a faithful.

    The traitors get to 'kill' someone every night. So tonight we will see them arriving to breakfast. All except whoever the traitors chose to 'kill' last night.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,377 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    “I find that whole father son connection kind of strange.”

    Similar happened in the UK series last year- I’m not convinced it adds anything - in reality, it probably leads to suspicion within the faithfuls if they latch on to this fact, and likely both will be voted out.
    If it doesn’t come to light, you’re then sitting there wondering “so what’s the point?” If one becomes a traitor, it might provide entertainment for the audience -ie- kicking out your own father/son- but again it’s not the “big secret” it might first appear to be.

    The UK series last year introduced a few new things to keep the show fresh- we’ve seen some of that now already in this Irish series- I wonder will new aspects be introduced - I hope so as the show needs to stay fresh - for the early episodes I tend to save the recordings and then binge and “speed read” them- it’s usually the second half of the series I start to watch each episode - but I do like the traitors uncloaked show too and I’d watch that -



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,014 ✭✭✭Homesick Alien


    We get it, you don't like the father/son thing. That's your third post about it. But it's a ratings winner and it's worked well in the UK version. Personally I don't feel strongly one way or the other but it is fun to see them having to act like strangers around others.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 83 ✭✭cleanfarmer2025


    It's not really fair in a competition with a cash prize to have 2 members of one family involved and to pretend that they didn't know the other was going in is worse again.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 82 ✭✭Polly701


    I like the father son thing - it's fun to watch them pretending they don't have a connection.

    Re the last to enter the breakfast room - apparently this takes a long time to film...they do different combinations entering and mix it up so that the contestants don't know how it will appear on the programme. (I read this about the UK one).

    I think they're all very brave to enter and a likeable bunch. I like Andrew and think Katelyn will go far.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,750 ✭✭✭Heroditas


    That makes an awful lot of sense about the breakfast scene. It must make the show absolutely draining for them though of they have to film a load of combinations and I also read that the roundtable in the UK version can go on for two hours. That's a lot of conversation, nuance and facial expressions to constantly monitor



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,297 ✭✭✭✭Penn


    I don't think they were pretending not to know the other was going in. In all the UK series where there's been an existing relationship between two people, they knew that they were both going in.

    There'd be no reason to pretend they didn't know, because literally 1 second after seeing each other, it doesn't matter.

    As for it not being fair in a competition with a cash prize… there are more disadvantages than advantages to it. It would be in the rules that the father isn't allowed to tell his son he's a Traitor and isn't allowed to say who the other Traitors are. Whether or not they've devised some sort of signal system between each other, who knows. But also, if it comes out that they are related and they haven't told the others, that puts them at a serious disadvantage because then they are both proven liars. The Faithfuls won't trust the son, and the Traitors won't trust the father.

    In each of the UK series, there was some form of couple. Series 1, when it was revealed there was a boyfriend & girlfriend, the boyfriend was voted out shortly after, and the girlfriend didn't last much longer because she then became a big target for the Traitors. Series 2, the mother and son, it never really factored into the game as no-one found out. Series 3 with the two sisters, the Faithful sister realised the other sister was acting too weird, realised she was a Traitor and helped vote her off. But also in doing so, made herself a target for the Traitors (as nobody would then believe she might also be a Traitor) and was murdered off.

    Many people lie about many things going into the show, including where they're from or their profession. Even for the Faithfuls, they might lie about certain things to make themselves seem like less of a threat and escape being murdered for a while. Ultimately though, while it's a "competition with a cash prize", this isn't Winning Streak. It's a game purely centered around deception and lying, and it's a game designed for entertainment rather than fair rules.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,957 ✭✭✭littlevillage


    Spare a thought for the two plebs that were booted off at the introduction line up 😂😂😂

    (is that standard practice in the UK versions?)

    They took it really well..... presumably being briefed by production staff that they have now got a bye into the later stages of the show where they will mysteriously re-appear.

    The Dave (?) fella caused a lot of shìt and loves the camera.... hopefully his stay is brief?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,957 ✭✭✭littlevillage


    The 50k prize is fairly lame when you consider the time off work, possible reputational damage and all the other nonsense that participants have to go through.... of course the "real" prize in these shows is the media exposure and the possibility of leveraging that into a career (of sorts) afterwards.... think Brian Dowling, Anna Nolan, Vogue Williams, Jennifer Zaperelli.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,903 ✭✭✭tea and coffee


    50,000 is pitiful. The US version is 250,000.



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