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Summer transfer window 2025

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 42,781 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    But Isak should be treated with kid gloves according to most of you.

    Amazing how the treatment of players switches so quickly with so many of you.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,308 ✭✭✭AidoEirE


    I haven't spoken once about the isak situation



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 42,781 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    I didn't say you had. Many have though and it's poor Alexander this, he only wants a move to a better club. But here we have Antony with an issue, most likely financial, and he should be made pay.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,308 ✭✭✭AidoEirE


    Two different circumstances with each player.

    You didn't say i had but seemed to butt in and swerve the conversation too another transfer we were not talking about.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 42,781 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Well it's just all the spiteful ill will towards Antony just got me thinking about the way many folk change their tune very quickly.

    I don't think it's out of left field to realise that and I'm just as entitled to share my opinion on things as those who like to trash the less popular and then sympathise with the guy on strike.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,817 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Is there any link/friendship between Bloom and Boehly? The Enciso deal was odd enough but I thought he failed the medical but both himself and Bounanotte are joining.

    Why?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,535 ✭✭✭kowloonkev


    I think you don't understand what is going on. Betis and United had reached an agreement for the transfer that little Antony was dreaming of, but then he comes out demanding a pay off because his salary will be less at his new club.

    It's completely different and not comparable to the Isak situation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 14,417 ✭✭✭✭machiavellianme


    I haven't been following the Anthony thing, but what's wrong with him wanting Utd to honour the contract they both signed? He moved there in good faith and gave his all. He was deemed surplus to requirements and is seemingly encouraged to leave. Shouldn't he receive what he was contractually promised, or at least an agreeable compromise?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    he wants it both ways. He wants United to pay the shortfall in wages that he’s missing out on by joining Betis. No harm in asking I suppose. United might accede to his request for the sake of getting a transfer fee.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,464 ✭✭✭jacool


    Adam Idah has completed a medical at Swansea. £7m, if it suits Celtic.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 42,781 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    Would you leave a contract with decent money to take one with lesser money and not expect a bonus for helping out? He's lightening the financial load on United, wanting to have a piece of that pie isn't ridiculous.

    Isak has went on strike, he's not abiding by his contract. He's telling Newcastle that it's his way or the highway.

    Pretty similar in ways but what Isak is doing is much worse.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,631 ✭✭✭The Big Easy


    In sport ability (includes application) and talent are always number 1, everything else comes way way after.

    Antony has little ability and talent, Isak has looked to be one of the best strikers in the PL, hence the wildly different views on the two.

    Isak has played brilliantly for Newcastle and now wants to play brilliantly for someone else.

    Antony has been terrible for United and after saying he only wants to play averagely for one other team, he wants to be paid off again in order to do it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,339 ✭✭✭Iseedeadpixels


    Chelsea are in a league of their own for sales 😅 Quite impressive.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    “helping out” is a pretty funny way to describe the situation to be fair. Antony’s desire to help out has absolutely nothing to do with it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 42,781 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    It's a big part of it. He's willing to give up a bigger contract for a smaller one, he just wants a bigger incentive to do it. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that. United have to decide if they want him to stay there on big wages doing nothing or give him a slice of the savings and he's gone.

    He's not refusing to play, he's willing to help out and leave if he gets a decent lump sum to facilitate the move.

    That's just business and there's nothing wrong with it.

    Breaking your contract by going on strike is bad business practice. Isak is not helping anybody by doing that. If we are going to ridicule anybody it should be Isak.

    All Antony is doing is trying to get the best financial package before he moves on. That's just smart business.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    Hes doing it to salvage his own career which is on the skids. A desire to help out man utd has zero to do with it. I’d say old trafford could burn to the ground for all the affection he holds the club in.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,993 ✭✭✭tinofapples


    Woltemade to Newcastle £69 ... the game is gone absolutely bananas



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 42,781 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    It's just business. Whether you or I or even Antony cares about United is irrelevant. By moving on and taking a lower paid contract and no longer being on their books he is helping United.

    He's just looking to be fairly compensated for it. There is nothing wrong with that. I think he'll get what he's looking for.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,604 ✭✭✭IncognitoMan


    The problem with this argument is I don't think it's very well thought through. I don't think people are thinking about the bigger picture when they make it.

    PSR has it's issues, it's not perfect at all - my main problem with it is how youth players are more valuable to sell off rather than keep in your team but the core idea of it is the right idea IMO.

    The alternative of opening the floodgates and letting wealthy owners pump in whatever they like won't make the league more competitive, in fact it will have the opposite effect in my view.

    Lets look at some figures. You are frustrated as a Villa fan because you feel like your billionaire owners aren't able to put funds into the club to buy players. Your owners have a net worth in total of around €6B. Rich people by almost every metric known to man.

    BUT and this is a big massive but, Newcastle Utd owners have a net worth of around €500B. They could make 1% of their total wealth available to Newcastle and it would blow your (and every) owner / club out of the water. That would be 10x the turnover of a club like Man Utd and it would be nothing to them. They could make the total value of Man Utd available to Newcastle as a budget and it wouldn't be but a drop in the ocean for them.

    Villa had the 18th highest turnover in the world in 2024 - at €310m. A club that was in the Championship for 3 years until 2019.

    That's fairly good progress.

    If we look at the 3 biggest clubs in the country - effectively the "old money" clubs. Ones that aren't being backed by state ownership and making up their own sponsorship deals!! For 2024 you have -

    Man Utd - €770m
    Liverpool - €714m
    Arsenal - €716m

    It's a lot more realistic to get to that level or at least compete with clubs operating at that level than it is to take on clubs with owners who can drop 1% of their total wealth and have it be 10x the times of their rivals turnovers.

    The answer to your question is Villa ARE going in the right direction. It just won't happen today or tomorrow but if they keep improving, keep spending well. Invest in their infrastructure (stadium and other ways to increase income streams). Then there is a far better chance you see you club win big trophies this way than if the floodgates are opened and the most important factor in your clubs success becomes about how much wealth your owner is willing to put in.

    I don't think football clubs should be owned by any 1 person or group anyway if I am honest but that's another topic

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,113 ✭✭✭Did you smash it


    Yes, it’s just business, nothing to do with helping out. Thanks for giving me a laugh anyway even unintentionally .



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 614 ✭✭✭FreshG


    I know a few people who know a few people. One of the quirks that has come up is that Chelsea are doing Brighton a favour, through the obvious connections and previous work colleagues, and are basically registering Bounonatte for the year to help with his HG status for Brighton. To grease some wheels, there is a small discount on the Enciso deal.

    I've also been informed that the Isak deal is done for £130m all in. That fee will be framed in different ways from the 2 clubs though and both will put out their own idea of how that fee will be reached. It's not all up front. The 2 clubs agreed to this as part of giving Newcastle more time to sign their striker in the background while everyone talked about Wissa & Larsen.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 42,781 ✭✭✭✭eagle eye


    As I said, if he terminates the contract he is helping out, intentionally or not it's a fact.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,027 ✭✭✭cmac2009




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,964 ✭✭✭adaminho


    Posted this in the Leeds thread yesterday. He has to stay in England till January to be classed as homegrown.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,336 ✭✭✭fitzparker


    It all depends on what the contract says, this is all over compensation im sure.

    if a player hands in a transfer request, they forfeit their "compsensation," I.e agreed bonuses, add-ons (that is why Isak hasn't handed in a request)

    Its the opposite of Isak… Antony doesn't necessarily want to go but is getting booted out, so yeah… if it was me or anyone else, id want exactly what I was owed to the penny - even if the other club were doubling my money

    Isak situation is he wants to go, so Newcastle may have grounds to not hand over all he is owed.

    So I agree with Eagle Eye, if Anto is owed, he deserves it to the penny



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,360 ✭✭✭NITRO95


    Its far from the opposite of Isak. Anthony has done interviews saying how hard it is to live in Machester and that he wants out. The issue is hes said all summer he just wants Betis and all Utd fans have known it would come down to the last week of the window with Betis acting the prick. Now Anthony is taking the piss with his request for a payoff



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,336 ✭✭✭fitzparker


    Well the easy solution is.

    1. if its in the contract > he is owed it, regardless if he took a shite on ratcliffs cereal
    or
    2. its not in his contract and he can sling his hook

    You can't argue contracts over he said she said.

    Same with Isak, im sure he was laughed at when he was "promised" a move, if its not in writing…tough



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,565 ✭✭✭The Rooster


    If Antony was being sold to the highest bidder, he would absolutely be entitled to get the payoff from ManU to compensate him for the drop in his contracted wages (I think Maguire did the same when West Ham were interested, which led to the collapse of the deal).

    But given Antony has said it’s only Betis, basically telling all others not to bother bidding, then I think it’s fair to say ManU are foregoing some transfer fee, so (if true) it is cheeky of Antony not to also accept a reduction to get the move his heart is set on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 36,145 ✭✭✭✭~Rebel~


    I think that'd be true if he was more actively trying to leave, but he's being forced out of the club, so in that case I kinda think it's fair enough to go on his own terms.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 58,508 ✭✭✭✭Necro


    Chelsea pull the plug on the Jackson deal after Delaps injury



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