Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 02/09/25*

And you've missed the point (yet again), you seem to have just waltzed into this thread wondering which side the left on and it's "give me the jersey - I'm ready to deflect". Care to address Dr Umar Al Qadri's statement I pointed out to you instead of deflecting as per? Do you even know who he is?

Someone pointed out how a muslim beheaded two men in Sligo for being gay, and your concern is the law? (you missed that point too btw)

Again, I'm not concerned with a week to a year's time like yourself, even ignoring the extremists, if you can't see how Muslims culture will affect (and outright opposes) Irish and the west, then there's no helping you

I asked how our culture is being taken from us as someone suggested. It isn't being taken from us even if a man killed 2 gay guys or some loony Muslim doctor is waffling on about stuff.

There are perfectly good reasons for it.

So what if they gave money, those countries have money to burn so its no big deal for them.

They dont take any of them in but a small country on the other side of the world offers 52 of them free health care, accommodation and college places and Paddy will foot the bill.

And let's get real here none of them will want to go back home and this is only the start of it because more will follow.

I disagree here - the quality of the people coming is of utmost importance. Firstly, anyone coming here the legal route via work permit needs to be going into a role with a minimum earnings floor of somewhere around €55,000 to €60,000 and that is just for that single worker. This is to ensure that they enter the workforce at a pay grade that ensures they will not be able to draw down supplementary welfare benefits.

We, Irish taxpayers, should not be subsidising foreign labour to prop up the low wages offered by some companies through HAP scheme, WFP payments or other work-related benefits from the social protection system for their employees. Secondly, companies seeking to hire non-EU/UK nationals need to have proven beyond all doubt that they have exhausted the entire EU labour market in searching for employees for the roles on offer before any application for a work permit is made.

If the non-EU worker is bringing family, then the floor for minimum earnings needs to be much, much further north of €55,000 to €60,000 per year. This is to ensure that because the worker has dependants that they do not fall into the aforementioned welfare supports net. In addition, the non-EU worker should have a ban on their ability to purchase a property at market asking price for a minimum of at least five years, preferably seven or eight or ten.

However, if they wish to do so, before the time constraint, then a tax of 100% applies - another words, if you can afford a €330K house just off the plane then you're paying €660K for it with the additional €330K going towards building a replacement house for an Irish national who wished to purchase that house at €330K and could do so.

I have no doubt this paragraph lacking rant will get plenty of thanks especially on this thread.

I didn't realise it was a popularity contest anyway - but here is the thing chief, once you step outside that bubble echo chamber of Bluesky and Reddit, etc… and the shock and horror reality of the real world bites where folk who don't align with your preconceived views are very, very different. Dismissing it as a 'rant' just shows that you have no-counter argument whatsoever.

That horrific incident by a single individual happened over 3 years ago but on a weekly basis mentioned here is always used against a population of 2 million Muslim people.

Are there 2 million Muslims in Ireland??? Seriously? I knew we had a big problem with mass-immigration but didn't realise it was on the scale of millions by now. Shocking.

You seek through your commentary to effectively 'isolate' this horrific homophobic attack as 'an incident by a single individual' with disregard to his upbringing in the islamic faith. Instead of alluding to how that faith system discriminates against LGB people through it's teachings, you turn things around and accuse those criticising islam and it's teachings as if it's somehow a lukewarm attack on '2 million Muslim people'. Mental gymnastics stike again.

If for example some Irish some lad in Australia\Canada\Etc. did … over there does that mean every Irish person living should be treated the same?

Just because you see my point as a 'strawman argument' when it's not (I've referenced actual events and actual perpetrators) to come back with a counter 'strawman argument' and 'what if' (whataboutery) serves no purpose but to expose that there is nothing can be countered.

That seems to be your argument. 1 person = Muslims

Can we store this little nugget for when the inevitable 'actual far-right racist' turns up at an anti-mass-migration rally that everyone else is not an 'actual far-right racist'. Fairness and all that, roight?

Also when you throw in the whole NGO drivel I doubt the Irish Kidney Foundation etc. are controlling the planet.

Since when do the Irish Kidney Foundation comment on migration issues in Ireland? Another 'gotcha' you thought would light up the night sky but is no more than a grain of sand burning up in the stratosphere and some kid thinking they saw a shooting star. The level of counterance on this thread is seriously at pre-school levels.

Mod Edit: Warned for personal abuse

Poor @_Kaiser_ man, you've just been called an "islamophobic". Hope that nasty name calling don't get you down champ. If you want to have a beer or two and maybe a packet of bacon fries afterwards just hit me a PM. Everything you said in the post #10275 was correct.

Islamaphobe, the latest word that is trotted out in discussion to try and shut down opposing opinions on the direction our country and Europe is heading. The way things are going, by 2050 parts of Ireland will be majority Muslim. People can contuine to keep their head in the sand or deny what is happening. The rapid change in demographics, even since covid is huge, and anyone who says otherwise isn't paying attention. Unless there is drastic reversal of current policy, Ireland as we know it, even today, is gone.

There is really no need to argue about the impact of failed immigration policies such as the ones in place here in Ireland today. There's a body of work that explains the outcomes of such failures in the UK, Germany, Denmark, Sweden and France. We had the opportunity to do things differently but decided to double down and accelerate straight into the immigration wall.

Now we are seeing tightening up in the economy it will be interesting to see how the dithering one and the sickly prince manage to extract more money from tax payers to fund this sh1t show. THE African cohort who moved through the ipas process to citizenship 70% are supported directly by welfare they won't take too kindly to any dip in the handouts as an example.

The purpose of the Irish nation and the proper use of its resources is the advancement of Irish people, not Palestinians.

As I've said here before when the money runs out is the only time this comes home to roost.

But then its too late.