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The light touch CA moderation experiment

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,779 ✭✭✭Potatoeman


    Potatoeman1:44 pm

    https://www.irishtimes.com/world/europe/2025/08/27/migrants-detained-in-africa-face-torture-sexual-abuse-with-eu-policy-blamed-for-adding-to-problem/

    Migrants detained in Africa face torture and sexual abuse, sure let them all in here to rape, murder and live off the state they contributed nothing towards because the middle class mafia grifters profiting off the situation say so, from their safe exclusive suburbs.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,072 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Fairly clear cut, your post was ridiculously inflammatory and serves no other purpose than to rile people up.

    If I went into a social wefare thread and said that people on welfare were all 'rapists, murderers and living off the state they contribute nothing towards' I'm sure I'd get a warning/threadbanned too.

    There are plenty of folks posting in the immigration thread with anti immigrant sentiment who aren't getting threadbanned, maybe have a look at their posts and see how they do it?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,779 ✭✭✭Potatoeman


    As we’ve seen, letting people with no id or background checks just is just opening the door to bad actors. There have been such crimes already.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,506 ✭✭✭Rocket_GD


    There's been crimes by Irish people as well, are all Irish people rapists and murderers?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 37,072 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Fairly sure if that's how you'd worded your post instead you wouldnt have been threadbanned.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,779 ✭✭✭Potatoeman


    That’s not explicitly stating that, there has been cases where this has happened as soon as they arrived in the country though my post does claim everyone is going to do that, statistically refugees are far more likely to be state dependents either working or not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,259 ✭✭✭yagan


    How do we know not all Dubliners aren't rapists and murderers without background checks before being let out of county Dublin?

    It's easiest to just assume.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 43,063 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    It is. You explicitly said so. It's pretty disgusting to be honest.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,779 ✭✭✭Potatoeman


    You’re a mod and in another thread you accused a poster of saying something they didn’t, so I would climb down from your high horse.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 43,063 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    No, I didn't.

    I'm as entitled to post here as anyone. You're welcome to disagree but you're the one who posted started this tangent.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,152 ✭✭✭✭One eyed Jack


    Fairly sure you’re reading that article arseways. It’s about the treatment of migrants by Mauritanian authorities:

    The 142-page report from Human Rights Watch (HRW) documents alleged abuses by the Mauritanian police, coast guard, army and navy as they carried out border and migration control duties between 2020 and early this year.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 21,817 Mod ✭✭✭✭Leg End Reject


    You were threadbanned for a previous post as per the warnings in the OP, you posted today despite that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,366 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    Everyone has seen your post, it's only acceptable with a small cohort of the community cause it's a horrible statement. The threadban was pretty clearly earned.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,370 ✭✭✭✭Oscar_Madison
    #MEGA MAKE EUROPE GREAT AGAIN


    Personally I think the “hands off” approach is working well overall - extreme views and quite simply bottom of the barrel posting was never part of this “deal”- I’m sure some mods are “itching” to intercede in “bickering” posts and can’t 😀-(as someone previously warned for “bickering”, albeit never consciously, I confess I do take delight in that)- but even these are short lived overall and I can see posters self moderating these posts mostly so really it just peters out itself - but this sort of post- pretty much all are agreed it’s not in the “spirit” of the “relaxing” of mod interventions - it’s just a clear cut “no, we don’t want to stoop and engage at this level on boards.ie” response from posters and mods.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 16,942 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    Are you having a laugh here with this ?

    You go on about " People engaging in bad faith, being abusive, playing the man and not the ball. " after saying this to another poster ..

    "Not only are you a raging hypocrite, you have so little self awareness that you can't accept having it pointed out to you" ?

    I had to read it a few times because I genuinely thought you must have been talking to yourself or joking , because it isn't very nice reflected back , is it ?

    Its addressing others on threads that people disagree with so aggressively and without any desire to find the middle ground "That's what's killing the forum, not people making complaints."

    If you had posted that post anywhere except feedback it would be classed as an ad hominem attack because it is a perfect illustration of playing the man not the ball.

    To finish with another quote from your post ..

    "This is why nothing you say has any validity. " .

    I am glad I didn't write that ...it is shameful and a personal attack.

    In fact I thought there was a rule on Feedback about personal attacks ??

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,410 ✭✭✭Billy Mays


    "Why was I threadbanned for implying all asylum seekers are murderers and rapists?"

    You can't be this f*cking stupid

    Post edited by Billy Mays on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,141 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    The poster I replied to on the day the rules were relaxed embarked upon a campaign of spamming and general nuisance posting in protest over the rule concerning anecdotes in the immigration thread.

    Their behaviour at that time went unpunished, at any other time they could or should have been site banned for their behaviour, yet in protesting in this way against relaxed rules for anecdotes they not only went beyond making that point but made an absolute mockery of the position they were taking.

    In fact the only people acting that way were the pro immigration posters.

    He then started this thread to complain about the relaxed rules which is a far better way of making his point but when his wishes were granted and the rules reinstated he then wanted other people to be denied the route of complaint he availed of.

    I typically don't make comments about other posters directly, but in light of his behaviour and the bare faced hypocrisy he displayed here I commented on his behaviour, his obvious hypocrisy and stated that in light of those facts his commentary here should not be taken seriously.

    I'm replying to you here to clarify the reasoning behind the post you decided to quote.

    I generally don't interact with you because of the fact you've repeatedly been abusive towards me on multiple occasions.

    You've quoted me in CA a number of times but I won't reply because you've proven to be incredibly unpleasant.

    Now after a good long while from me posting what you quoted you're in here looking to raise my post as being in contravention of the rules I'm guessing with the intent of hopefully seeing me being punished.

    I think you've ignored the facts of the post I made and have come here to see to it I receive some measure of punishment which undermines the point your attempting to make. That poster wanted their opinions to be given due consideration, even after their ridiculous behaviour that was accommodated but they wanted to silence others, they are a raging hypocrite, and that's borne out by facts, not personal opinion.

    Glazers Out!



  • Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Help & Feedback Category Moderators Posts: 26,436 CMod ✭✭✭✭Spear


    Every single time.

    Every single time we have a feedback thread you all can't help but start bickering with each other, dragging up grudges old and new, and attempting to continue other threads in here.

    Any real and usable input is drowned out, if not deterred completely.

    No more of the off-topic stuff, the interpersonal bickering or attempts to re-run other threads and disputes.

    I won't close this at this point, but it'll be warnings and infractions to keep this on track and get any value out of this.

    (this was written up before nullzero's post above, he didn't prompt this).



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,141 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
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    There was a warning issued last week about discussion of flags in the immigration thread. It was suggested people set up a separate thread for it but the last few pages have been nothing but discussion of flags.

    How is it these things are let go but other issues get jumped on immediately?

    If you want a conversation about immigration it's going to have to wait because flags are racist or something. Complete nonsense and people know well it's been called youth as off topic.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,117 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    The immigration thread is still up so how can you claim that conversations about immigration have to wait. There are a lot of posts not related to flags there.

    There seems to be a discussion about flags related to immigration, even an article about it on RTE today, so it is certainly not off topic.

    https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2025/0901/1531118-dcc-tricolour/



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 17,083 ✭✭✭✭MisterAnarchy


    I think there are certain heated topics that simply cant be discussed rationally or calmly on here or pretty much anywhere on the internet for that matter, Immigration being one.

    You have a small minority of NGO based operatives and bad faith actors on one side and a few far right agitators on the other side.

    These posters will try to derail any logical discussion and insert their propaganda.

    This site is liberal minded so it will by default seek to over compensate in how it moderates, so one side will always have a built inadvantage.

    We live is a culture of people being perpetually offended at the least thing, virtue signalling cancel culture so anything in the least bit controversial is erased.

    Sometimes its best to keep ones politics to oneself. I mentioned this before on another thread how study has show that the people most likely to discuss politics in an open manner, rarely change their ideas or beliefs.

    In effect they gravitate towards an echo chamber. Pride over truth.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,141 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    The immigration discussion has to wait because the thread is being derailed by flag talk.

    This was subject to a warning already yet everyone is flouting the warning and the thread is no longer about immigration

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 56,075 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    Lets call a spade a spade here, that thread is only about one side of the discussion as the other side are constantly getting banned

    Bias/prejudice stinks in that forum



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,141 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    This very thread is about that dynamic, as soon as the OP had their requirements met there should be no more discussion.

    I think at the very least if a mod makes the effort to say a topic isn't to be discussed in a particular thread they should action posts that go against that.

    Even if you're not punishing people, remove the posts or open a thread for that discussion and move the posts there to keep the relevant discussion going instead of being derailed.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,117 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    I just went on the thread there. The latest page has 10-12 posts not discussing flags, they are discussing immigration. Just put the posters on ignore.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,141 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    So mod warnings can be casually ignored then?

    For reference, most of the last few pages are all about flags which is when I posted here.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,117 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    If they are no longer posting about flags then the warnings are not being ignored. Which is the current situation.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 19,141 ✭✭✭✭nullzero
    °°°°°


    You're just being obtuse.

    You know well that there's pages and pages of flag discussion on there from today and yesterday. What's to say it won't go back to flags again?

    The warning was roundly ignored, it's a point of fact if you care to read the thread. You're just on a wind up here.

    I'm trying to offer some constructive feedback and you're just offering snark.

    Glazers Out!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,366 ✭✭✭eightieschewbaccy


    I actually think it's pretty strange that any poster is claiming that the site is being infiltrated by "NGO operatives".... It seems more like a case of trying to smear the posters you don't agree with. Also accusing others of propaganda while claiming there are NGO operatives at work is pretty ironic. 😂



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,117 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    I'm pointing out you are incorrect that conversations about immigration was being stifled by the flag discussion. I was not snarky at all to you, just pointing out that that the discussion in the immigration thread has moved on. I see only one mention in the thread now recently from poster who is against immigration regarding flags, but no one has replied to that.



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