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rsa supporting e-scooters

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  • #1322
    Flinty997
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,540 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123761830#Comment_123761830

    They might not have bought it in the first place.



  • #1323
    Paddigol
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,721 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    I'm just glad that the eBikers have taken the heat off the rest of us who aren't being victim blamed for not being clad head to toe in hi-viz. It's good to have another scapegoat in the room.

    (I jest)



  • #1324
    Flinty997
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,540 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123762129#Comment_123762129

    Lol true.



  • #1325
    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 54,190 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    Remember the glory days of lockdown when joggers were briefly the bete noir?



  • #1326
    Paddigol
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,721 ✭✭✭Paddigol


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123762504#Comment_123762504

    "they were breathing really heavy Joe!" "I saw one of them spitting Joe!!!"

    Heady times indeed.



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  • #1327
    Stark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 21,270 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Oh Jesus, still feel uncomfortable jogging through my local park after all the dirty looks I got during COVID.

    "I used to be able to let kids lick the ground outside but now I can't because of all the joggers leaving their toxic sweat all over it!".

    Though the spitting thing is disgusting pandemic or no pandemic to be fair.



  • #1328
    zell12
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,344 ✭✭✭✭zell12


    FGers are out with pitchforks. Do they not realise FG are ruling since 2011?

    The motion calls for the Minister for Transport to “fully commence, implement, and enforce the provisions of the Road Traffic and Roads Act 2023” and “to ensure that high-powered e-scooters and Surron-type models are subject to licensing, registration, and insurance requirements in line with other motorised vehicles” & “monthly reporting to Dublin City Council from An Garda Síochána and Dublin Fire Brigade on collisions, seizures, and enforcement actions relating to e-scooters and Surron-type models within the city boundary.”

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/emergency-motion-submitted-to-dublin-city-council-for-regulation-of-high-speed-e-scooters-and-scramblers/a817858923.html



  • #1329
    BP_RS3813
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 805 ✭✭✭BP_RS3813


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123491721#Comment_123491721

    Because we have to apparantly, same thing went for the Re turn bottle scheme - other countries have perfectly functioning systems which developed off failures (the exact same we made and are currently doing) which we could have copied but we had to do it ourselves.

    Regarding your cycling speed comment, your absolutely correct - when I commute on the bike (a very sh*tty old push bike) 18-23 kph would be my average speed and I'm not a very fit person.

    I'd argue make it even higher - 30kph is perfect in my opinion. Its only when you go past this trouble happens IMO.



  • #1330
    Rubberchikken
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    Explain the attraction of these modes of transport to pedestrians who are trying to move along footpaths with puppets riding these things with no regard for law or safety.

    This notion of 'finding' space fir a dedicated lane fir them is complete nonsense.

    Bikes dont all stay in bike lanes even when said lanes are available.

    In Our town the majority using e scooters dont give a fu@@ for anyone around them and nothing is going to change that imo.

    The rsa and the government can legislate all they like. It's road users attitudes that need to change.



  • #1331
    Cabaal
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 28,628 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123772637#Comment_123772637


    100% agree, but the gov cannot even change motorist mindsets and stop motorists driving on footpaths on a daily basis in every village, town and city in Ireland. You'll find more motorists don't give a f*** in your town when compared to scooter users.

    Motorists have the added issue of not only are they a danger to pedestrians when they do this, but they also cause physical damage to infrastructure which is not designed to take the weight of cars.



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  • #1332
    Del2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,108 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123774148#Comment_123774148

    I don't know any motorist who's first interaction with the road was in a car, so they learnt their bad habits on foot or cycling because to pass the test you can't do anything that you mentioned in a car. So we can teach people how to do drive correctly. But then they revert to what they know and that to ignore the traffic laws which is not helped by the complete lack of enforcement.



  • #1333
    cletus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,591 ✭✭✭cletus


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123774182#Comment_123774182

    I had a fella nearly cause a 3 car crash because he overtook me on a 60kph road at probably double that speed, if not more, on a blind bend.

    Had I not put my car into the ditch, he'd have hit both me and the oncoming car that he swerved towards me to avoid.

    He didn't learn that walking or cycling.



  • #1334
    Del2005
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,108 ✭✭✭✭Del2005


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123774888#Comment_123774888

    They learn that the law doesn't apply to them when cycling and they carry this mentality on to when they are driving.



  • #1335
    CramCycle
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,233 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123780554#Comment_123780554

    LOL, that's a stretch that implies that every rule breaker driving learned to do so while cycling which is ludicrous when you compare the population stats on those who do both. What is more realistic is that they grew up watching friends and family driving and not getting in trouble, and now do the same, potentially pushing the envelope a bit further.

    I am quite good at sticking to the rules while driving as growing up my father drilled it in to me every time we were in the car, and pointing out other errors/issues. My habits were formed through observation, the idea that someone running a light on a bike therefore thinks it's OK in a car later in life is laughable.



  • #1336
    cletus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,591 ✭✭✭cletus


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123780554#Comment_123780554

    I don't think you genuinely believe that every person out there driving badly and breaking the law does so because they learned they could cycle on the footpath or roll through a red light.

    Why not have an actual conversation on here, instead of making up disingenuous nonsense?



  • #1337
    smacl
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 16,099 Mod ✭✭✭✭smacl


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123772583#Comment_123772583

    Not sure e-scooters are as stable as bikes with larger wheels when it comes to the pothole slalom in our bike-lines and roads, particularly in wet and dark conditions. Also be interesting to check relative braking distances from full speed to stop.

    That said, I'm a big fan of affordable transport and freedon of movement that e-scooters and e-bikes provide to so many people who would otherwise either struggle to get about, or in the case of kids, necessitate a lift from a parent. With respect to obeying the rules of the road, it is a matter of education and policing, it is not a problem intrinsic to the mode of transport.

    Personally, I'd rather see kids on push bikes than anything powered where that is an option, in terms of the health benefits, but e-bikes and e-scooters are still preferable to getting lifts in the SUV or never leaving the house.

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  • #1338
    magicbastarder
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 54,190 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123780774#Comment_123780774

    i learned my bad habits as a pedestrian, crossing roads where there was no official crossing point, at age five. it was all downhill from there.



  • #1339
    Cabaal
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 28,628 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123763870#Comment_123763870

    During the 5km restrictions I used to go off doing 20-40mile runs on country roads.
    I was never stopped, I never expected to be stopped and I never, ever was nearer then 100 feet from any person as I ran so it was perfect. Had I run locally I'd have been near people all the time….that was my logic for breaking the law!

    No Gardai would have believed I ran 30miles from my house 😂



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