Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

its not a deflection at all, other countries have high levels of gun ownership, but have much lower rates of gun crimes, the lack of adequate mental health supports is clearly a fundamental part of the problem, along side gun ownership of course

I can't think of any other countries that have the same level of the toxic flavour of individualism that the US loves so much.

Mental healthcare and support are disasters in a lot of countries. The US system won't change but then again, I suppose the second amendment is here to stay as well.

I know exactly how I feel. RFK Jr. is a deeply hateful human being. When there were two deaths in Samoa due to a mis-administered vaccine in 2018, he lobbied the president to withdraw the vaccine. There was a Measles outbreak and he sent a four-page letter to the president suggesting that the vaccine was the problem. 83 children died and he described the outbreak as "mild".

He's still responsible for his actions. There are plenty of traumatised people who don't spend time trying to increase the amount of misery in the world.

Not a single part of the 2nd amendment related to what's in it's wording about the well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state is relevant in any way to what happens regularly at schools in the U.S: the murder of school children attending the schools by a rifle and/or pistol wielding person. The amendment is regularly used instead to throw a sheet over the murders, to lead people down the "we'll lose our gun-rights" rabbit hole as against any thought being put into a well regulated control of fire-arms keeping the children safe away from the reach of gun carrying would-be murderers.

So the guidelines about who gets them are being brought in line with most of the rest of the world then? Is that really a reason to resign?

I'd say it's a sign of things to come. RFK is not qualified to be making medical recommendations to the CDC. They weren't actually asked for input on the topic at all. Monarez has a speciality in infectious disease research so I'd be more trusting of her and her colleagues judgment.

In terms of multiple staff resigning, the CDC has been under attack by RFK since day one. So this is a cumulative effect for many. Will he be trying to get them to rubber stamp his supposed cause of autism next month. Betting he's gonna include vaccines in the list.

Just an fyi, this is brain drain as a result of Trump and co. This is pretty much standard for regimes that behave like criminals.

Also the vaccines continue to be available to pretty much anyone in the Western world if they want to get them. On top of that, pregnant women are recommended in lots of countries for pregnant women including Ireland. This was pointed to in one of resignations.

I know in the UK, if you are outside the recommended groups then you can pay privately to get it. Im sure it will be similar in the US , but doubtful it will be as cheap when its not covered by insurance. I think the list of underlying conditions is pretty broad too, and includes obesity which would cover many Americans who want to get it.

Funding for research into gun violence was cancelled by the Republican administration.

absolutely, so theres clearly something fundamentally going wrong in regards long term mental health services in America, leading to a significantly high amount of gun related crimes occurring within the country, as emotionally stable people rarely commit such crimes

I will take what your saying a step further and say as a direct result of RFK and his deranged beliefs and the actions he is taking as a result of them he will literally kill Americans who otherwise would not have died due to his anti-vaxer nonsense.

The general rise of anti-intellectualism in the states is more than alarming, this will also probably lead to more deaths over all.