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Israel/Palestine Thread

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    Those sick IDF cowards bombing hospitals and killing journalists nearly 2 years into their murder spree. What possible military objectives can be achieved by that ???

    Disgusting cowards.

    Only muslims.

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,313 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Govt. would fall, there would be elections, Netanyahu's corruption case would be closed and ICC would remove their arrest warrant for War Crimes.

    Israel would still be up for Genocide before the ICJ.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,313 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    To annexe Gaza, settle it and to continue illegally occupying East Jerusalem and the West Bank with a view to eventually claiming full sovereignty over both.

    In addition, they will take in Syria (Golan) and southern Lebanon (especially after they get rid of UNIFIL).

    Jordan and Egypt remain nervous



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 55,122 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Amazing that there are posters still attempting to play down genocide, bombing of hospitals, starvation of a population and the murder of Press. Sometimes there are just no words.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 55,122 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 55,122 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Didn't we have the Ambassador of Genocide try to do the same here. Brilliant that she's gone and nobody misses her. We don't need people like that here.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 55,122 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    The IDF and their backers are the lowest form of life on the planet at the moment. War Crimes filmed live. The rest of the world needs to wake up.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 302 ✭✭dannyo666


    and we all live happily ever after?Satanyahus whole cabinet is full of hard right barbarian's but an election very very possible to have PM who is moderate….i don't know Isreal is too far in now,theve commited,they have showed their cards and settlers are intent on getting what they want,the Israeli settler population as a whole wont stop,no way,no matter the stance of the government…..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭sock.rocker*


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,184 ✭✭✭Spudmonkey


    The murder machine would keep on rolling….

    This isn't an issue with one man. He's just the face of it.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,311 ✭✭✭mountain


    I was kinda thinking out loud,

    I don’t see any hope in Gaza, 2 state solution isn’t going to happen, Israel won’t be reined in, Arab neighbouring countries for all their wealth are beholding to America.
    it is and has been been for decades an apartheid state.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,237 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Yes, that's pretty much the plan. Force all of the people of Gaza out of the enclave forever, replace them with Israeli settlers and then the 'Gazan question' is solved. It's the type of enterprise that a terrorist or rogue athoritarian state would usually attempt to pull off - the regime and its many fanboys don't give a toss about human rights, global public opinion or accusations of genocide and war crimes, so they see no reason why they shouldn't try to execute it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,184 ✭✭✭Spudmonkey


    It is quite simply insane to me how no-one can stop this nation of psychopathic lunatics.

    https://x.com/WarMonitors/status/1959900245426352338

    Two years I've had a constant feed of innocent people getting bombed, children's body parts strewn around the place, heads exploded etc… all so these cunts can "feel" safe…

    **** them to the high heavens…. How the **** can they be stopped???? Jesus Christ…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,473 ✭✭✭halkar


    Problem is if US does not stop supporting and supplying Israel they will not stop. Without US support IDF would be throwing stones to Gaza and shooting Iranian missiles with sling shots.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,313 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Plenty want a 2 state solution as it appears to be the only solution to continuing war.

    Shame that Israel doesn't want it - but they will be forced to accept it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,464 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    Israel is a sick and depraved society. Billie Eilish and Mark Ruffalo speak out and this is how Israel treats their concern.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,708 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    A good article from +972 magazine -

    Israel’s ongoing genocidal campaign in Gaza may be the most thoroughly documented atrocity in recent history, measured both by the sheer volume of evidence and the speed of its circulation. Smartphones and social media — which were still a world away during the genocides in Bosnia and Rwanda — allow events to be captured instantly, from countless angles, and shared globally in real time, with traditional media still playing a not-insignificant supporting role. 

    And yet, faced with an unending flood of photos and videos of dead civilians, starving children, and entire neighborhoods reduced to rubble, much of the Israeli public — and a significant portion of Israel’s supporters abroad — responds in one of two ways: either it is all fake, or else the Gazans deserved it. Often, paradoxically, it is both at once: “There are no dead children in Gaza, and it’s good that we killed them.”

    https://www.972mag.com/israelis-atrocity-denial-gaza/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,464 ✭✭✭✭A Dub in Glasgo


    BBC presenter when challenged on the framing of their reports on Gaza 'Well we are just reporting what the IDF have said…..'



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 8,708 ✭✭✭Odhinn


    The total rises once more -

    "Israel kills sixth Palestinian journalist

    Israeli forces have killed Hassan Douhan, a journalist and academic who worked as a correspondent for Al-Hayat al-Jadida publication."

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2025/8/25/live-israel-intensifies-attacks-on-gaza-leaving-dozens-dead-in-a-day?update=3907557



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,313 ✭✭✭dmcdona




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,583 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    6th murdered journalist in just one day.

    They have no shame

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,313 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    That would be the immediate aftermath if Netanyahu died (which was your question).

    In the long term, it's hard to predict. Would a new Govt. be any different? With only Netanyahu gone, as you say, the likes of Smotrich and Ben-Gvir will remain. Whether they are reelected is hard to know.

    Even if a more moderate Govt. was elected, all they could hope to do is stop the Genocide, plan for the recovery of Gaza, stop the Settlers rampaging in the WB. If they were moderate enough of course.

    But that recovery would be more about trying to repair the standing of Israel on the world stage - that is where the real risk is. Even if there was some movement towards peace, paying reparations and so on, even that will not convince the world that Israel deserves a second chance.

    It took Germany decades to recover when the world discovered the true horrors of the Holocaust - Germany carries that guilt even today. But from now on when "genocide" is mentioned, it will be Gaza that people will immediately think of.

    The article posted by @Odhinn is well worth a read - if the world sees Israel as it describes, the stain will never wash off.

    The video posted a few days ago of the Holocaust survivor is also powerful and articulate.

    Many businesses will not want to do business with Israel, their International tourism industry is busted, their economy is already tanking and set to get a whole lot worse. Israelis are sanctioned, international trade deals are at risk, EU countries are no longer sending military equipment.

    The ICJ has yet to rule on the SA case for Israeli Genocide - I've already predicted that Israel will be found culpable. The ICJ already found the case plausible and that was over a year ago. The evidence we have seen, even since March, eclipses what happened when the ICJ released its findings. And that's the evidence we know about. When the full story comes out, it will turn stomachs.

    When that verdict is issued, it will copper-fasten Israel as a world pariah.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,297 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    They are disgusting , tyranical , murdering thugs . Nothing more



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,978 ✭✭✭CFlat


    Don't worry everyone. BN and the IDF are going to carry out an enquiry into what happened today and I'm sure there'll be arrests of the pilots who murdred those journalists anytime soon.....



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,313 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    There's a lot more detail in the Haaretz reporting of today's hospital strike.

    Seems the IDF were taking out a "camera" with tank fire then made sure with a second volley. I'm not an expert but I'd imagine it took at least a few minutes for responders to attend the scene. So why would it take more than a few minutes to release that second volley? And with their binoculars or whatever they use, surely the IDF could see rescuers?

    But sure, read the reports below for details. Depressingly familiar.


    At least 20 Palestinians, including five journalists and four medical personnel, were killed and some 50 wounded after the IDF struck Khan Younis' Nasser Hospital, the last functioning hospital in southern Gaza, the Hamas-run Health Ministry reported. The ministry said the IDF's first strike targeted the fourth floor of the hospital, while the second one struck medical aid teams who came to treat the wounded.

    • The IDF stated that ground forces fired a tank shell at the hospital because they thought a camera on site was being operated by Hamas to observe Israeli troops. The forces then fired another shell to ensure the camera was hit, which the IDF estimated hit the medical personnel who tried to treat those wounded from the first shelling. IDF Chief of Staff Zamir has ordered an initial inquiry "as soon as possible."
    • The IDF said it "regrets any harm to uninvolved individuals and does not target journalists as such," and added that it acts to "mitigate harm to uninvolved individuals as much as possible while maintaining the safety of IDF troops."
    • Senior military officials who spoke to Haaretz dispute this version of events, adding that the area is full of cameras, and that it is unclear why the force decided to attack this specific camera. "It's unclear who gave the order to fire at a hospital over a camera," a military source told Haaretz, adding that the IDF considers Nasser Hospital a sensitive facility whose targeting requires approval from a senior officer. "This could have been done in a much more precise way," the source said.
    • Reuters said it was "devastated" by the killing of its cameraman Hussam al-Masr in the strike, confirming also that Moaz Abu Taha, a freelance journalist occasionally published by Reuters, was also killed, as were Al-Quds News' Ahmed Abu Aziz, Al Jazeera's Mohamed Salameh and photographer Mariam Dagga, a freelancer for The Associated Press during the war. AP said it was "shocked and saddened" by her death.
    • WHO Director-General Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus wrote on X that "while people in Gaza are being starved, their already limited access to health care is being further crippled by repeated attacks. We cannot say it loudly enough: STOP attacks on health care. Cease-fire now!" Doctors Without Borders' emergency coordinator in Gaza Jerome Grimaud wrote on X that "as Israel continues to shun international law, the only witnesses of their genocidal campaign are deliberately being targeted. It must stop now."
    • The Foreign Press Association, Reporters Without Borders and other associations representing journalists worldwide issued statements "fiercely condemning" the Israeli strike. Reporters Without Borders Director General Thibaut Bruttin asked "how far will the Israeli armed forces go in their gradual effort to eliminate information coming from Gaza? How long will they continue to defy international humanitarian law?" U.K. Foreign Secretary David Lammy said he was "horrified" by the strike on the hospital.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,122 ✭✭✭Miniegg


    I do not deny the humanitarian need in Gaza

    When did you come around to accepting it, as a matter of interest?

    Do you also agree the the Israeli government and military are the root cause of this humanitarian need?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,313 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Unhappy reservists…


    "The "Soldiers for Hostages" group, which includes hundreds of reserve soldiers who served in Gaza, appealed in a letter to Military Advocate General Brig. Gen. Yifat Tomer-Yerushalmi to determine that the order to take over Gaza City is illegal, writing that "given the certain risk to the lives of the hostages, the lack of a legitimate military purpose and the serious harm inflicted upon innocent civilians – it is clear that the order exceeds all legal and moral standards, and carries a black flag over it."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,313 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    The BBC are reporting this. My holding.

    You really couldn't make this up.


    "We've just got this new comment from the office of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. 

    In the statement on X, it says that "Israel deeply regrets the tragic mishap that occurred today at the Nasser Hospital in Gaza" 

    "Israel values the work of journalists, medical staff, and all civilians" it continues. 

    Military authorities are conducting a "thorough investigation".

    The PM's office finishes by saying that "our war is with Hamas terrorists. Our just goals are defeating Hamas and bringing our hostages home"."



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 1,210 ✭✭✭z80CPU
    Darth Randomer


    French Government summons US Ambassador over remarks he made about France being inactive about antisemitism

    At least it's something, the Dáil would never have the guts to do something like this

    https://www.france24.com/en/video/20250825-france-summons-us-ambassador-kushner-accuses-france-of-inaction-on-antisemitism



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,237 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Very noticeable that Israel makes absolutely no mention of targeting members of Hamas, nor killing them, in any of today's statements.



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