Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 02/09/25*

Nobody forced you to emigrate, take it up with your friends and family if none of them gave a crap when you left.

The irish people dont owe you a collective "feeling".

japan was always isolated geographically and culturally anyway, it's not really something you can compare a european country to that is interwoven with many other countries for a long time. the millioins of migrants from africa and middle east every year will have some of them trickle through to ireland, people go where they see opportunity.

98% of Japan is ethically Japanese. Nigeria is close to 100% black.

You should probably try read the post and not wikipedia.

Similar to your Japanese rant. I could list a dozen reasons external to Ireland for our wealth. British territorial protection. English speaking. EU membership. US MNCs etc.

I could then point to the explosion of immigration and state how theres dark days ahead because of it.

One thing is guaranteed about Japan and the Japanese. Theyre rabidly pro Japanese and they will not suffer any sort of replacement in their own country.

Ireland is isolated geographically, to similar extents that Japan is, that is until sub-€100 flights came along.

Agreed, and that land border wouldn't be there only for unwanted mass-migration in the past. Something that should resonate deeply with every Irish person on this island as to how it has played out.

You would think there would be 'lessons learned' to coin a popular phrase from our student union political class that rule here.

I agree with your point that there are lots of factors that impact to some degree on sense of community - increasing car ownership being one of the earliest I remember, when more people began travelling from A to B inside their own bubble.

However, those aspects pale in comparison to having more and more of those around you choosing not to speak the same language, adhering strictly to a belief system that flies in the face of our own hard won freedoms and values and dressing in a way that screams 'DON'T COME NEAR ME.'

That kind of thing drives a coach and horses through community cohesion.

Chilling analysis here on the effects refugees have on sexual assaults in the Netherlands. It should be everyone's responsibility to know the effects refugees from certain countries will have. We can't live in a world where only the good news stories are promoted by the national bodies.

Each post has a translate feature but I'll post a few snippets.

"Men from typical asylum countries commit sexual offenses 4 to 20 times more often than native men".

"Statistics Netherlands (CBS) stopped publishing figures on sexual offenses by migration background in 2022 and made the old figures difficult to find on their website.These figures show that non-Western men (aged 12–45) are two to five times more likely to be suspected than native Dutch men."

Apart from the fact it's disgraceful western EU nations try to hide these stats it should be noted that the problem doesn't just magically go away with second and 3rd generation citizens descended from these refugees. There's often a narrative peddled by left leaning commentators that once the refugee has children or grandchildren they become as native as the rest of us and there's nothing to worry about. The culture of a nation is formed over much more then 3 generations and it takes a lot more generations then that to change the culture of certain less compatible immigrants.

"The nationality figures from tweet 1/ are obviously highly distorted, as many people acquire Dutch citizenship sooner or later, especially among the first and especially the second generation born in the Netherlands. Nevertheless, there is a huge overrepresentation."

You're deliberately polarising with a false premise. Who is pro mass uncontrolled migration? I gather that those people are in a small minority.

You'll find there are plenty of people who are pro mass uncontrolled migration. Some even post in this thread and often use throwaway tropes like far-right, racist and bigots to shut down opposing views.

It's posters like yourself that are pushing the narrative that 'progressives' or pro immigration people are somehow anti-irish or anti-white and what Irish heritage to be cleansed.

Again, in this discussion topic we have seen some say 'who cares' if Irish people become a minority on this island, so no - it's not me pushing any narrative when some on here are well capable of espousing those views all by themselves.

Japan for example is regularly criticised for its hostility to immigrants and for how it treats foreign workers. Gulf states are majority expat in many cities yet are condemned for denying equal rights. The idea that only white-majority places face scrutiny is a lie.

The only time I've ever seen media commentary about how countries treats foreign workers was in the run up to the Qatar World Cup Soccer Finals, hardly a peep before or since - and that commentary was usually along side criticism of Qatar's legal stance on LGBT issues, which was more awful than exploitation of workers in any commentary I recall reading.

If an Irish man or woman living in Ireland procreates with a non-white person, say south Asian or east asian, south American or African, do you believe they are supporting an anti-white/irish 'agenda'? Or betraying their Irish heritage by race mixing?

No, why would they? What a strange question to ask.

If your point is about policy, then talk policy. Controlled borders, clear asylum rules, fast processing, firm enforcement, investment in housing and services, language support, pathways to citizenship.

Plenty of discussion and good ideas put forward on all of the above throughout this thread. If you haven't read those and just joined in on this discussion thread 10,000+ posts in, I highly recommend you go back through some of the previous posts. While on this point, there are little or no solutions coming from the pro open/lax borders side.

The "Globalists want to replace us" is pure conspiracy nonsense.

Really, have you done your homework on this? Or do you just dismiss anything that goes against globalism without a second thought? Conspiracy nonsense it is not, here is an alarming study fresh out in the UK:

End “disaster” of one million workless youngsters, says CSJ - The Centre for Social Justice

Two key take-away points from the study:

• Almost one million young people idle as UK payroll data reveals 315 per cent increase in employed non-EU migrants under 25.
• One in eight 16 to 24 year olds are now not in education, employment or training. Economic inactivity among 16 to 24 year olds, excluding students, has risen by 23 per cent. In the last year alone, under 25s on payroll plummeted by 119,000.

So - yes there is 'replacement' going on and its sickening to see. One million British young adults idle is a tinderbox waiting to ignite. This is the result of mass-immigration and those responsible for it need to now reverse course.

If you cannot do that without slipping back into racial prejudices then you have proven my point about veiled racist pseudo-intellectual babble.

Ah, was waiting for the usual tropes about racism. Call me a big bad racist all you like, it's lost all meaning - just another dog whistle to shut down any opposing views. Student union politics in action - no wonder the country is going down the gutter.

there wasn’t ‘plenty’ of hate and bigotry towards Poles when they arrived and you know it.

Uproar in England over one type of pedestrian crossing. The uproar is from the self-declared 'tolerant and inclusive' cohort. Similar to the cohort here who think flying the Irish tri-colour is offensive.