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Lawnmower starter cord - seized

  • 21-08-2025 06:36PM
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,802 ✭✭✭


    Hi

    My father has a Honda HRD536 lawnmower and when you try to pull the starter cord, it won't pull as there's too much resistance.

    I'm thinking the engine might be seized (it was running until recently). I've removed the top cover and using a spanner as a lever, I can turn it but it's stiffer than I'd say it should be.

    Anything else worth checking before I drop it in to a professional?



Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,085 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    Yes. Take the spark plug out & try turning it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,802 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    Still stiff to turn with the spark plug removed



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,672 ✭✭✭monseiur


    Check that the engine flywheel brake is fully engaged, this is the bar on the handle that you hold down to run engine, when released it stops the engine. It could be stuck half ways or faulty. That is assuming your mower has such a bar !



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,517 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    With the sparkplug out, and with the sparkplug definitely out, can you manually turn the blade to turn over the engine?

    Its possible that that the problem is just at the starter cord side.

    Also, make sure you have the spark plug out and no where near the engine when doing this!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,448 ✭✭✭GavPJ


    Make sure there isn't anything caught up in the blade to stop the engine turning.

    String picked up from the lawn or a heap of long grass. Had to clear off something

    similar to that from a neighbours mower a few weeks ago. I'd be surprised if it

    is seized. If Honda made people, nobody would die :-)



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,802 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    Yeah, the blade will turn but again, it's pretty stiff.

    Brought it to the guy who services it and he thinks that the crankshaft is bent - he won't have time to look at it now as he's away for the next few weeks. He said it'd usually take something pretty big to cause that sort of damage; my father is the one who has been using it so I'm not sure exactly what happened but the area where he uses it is pretty flat with nothing obvious that would cause that



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,517 ✭✭✭✭GreeBo


    if the blade is hard to turn with the plug out then either something has warped or there is something stuck in there, as above, twine or wire can wrap itself bloody tightly around these things.

    Mowers have pins that are designed to shear should the blade hit something immovable/solid. This means you dont break the engine or the blade, and typically just need a new mounting bracket/flange/connector.

    There is also a woodruff key within the engine that would shear to again save the engine/shaft. if this was broken the blade would turn freely (the engine would also start, but the blade wouldnt move!)

    You might have a damaged cylinder or connector rod, but this would be strange enough to happen without someone noticing.

    I believe that mower has a 4 stroke engine, is there oil in it?!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,085 ✭✭✭✭Discodog


    I think that mower has a blade clutch & it could be jammed



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,889 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    I used to work contract cutting grass with a gang of lunatics that could and would damage any mower and didn't give a toss what they mowed over. I've seen plenty of damage to mower engines but I've never seen a bent crankshaft.

    However what I've seen a lot of after blades hitting things like curb stones is broken flywheel keys. To save further explanation here's a youtube video that might help…

    Never seen one this bad often you can hardly notice the damage until you remove the key when you see its slightly deformed.

    https://www.youtube.com/shorts/xgLJKoYzjCQ

    This one shows the sort of damage that will often create the issue the OP is getting

    Same as the issue already mentioned by GreeBo.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,802 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    Interesting - that would seem more likely than a bent crankshaft. I'll try to have a look at it over the weekend 👍️



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,889 ✭✭✭The Continental Op


    A lot of the time you can hardly notice that the key is damaged so you need to remove the flywheel to be sure.

    Wake me up when it's all over.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,085 ✭✭✭✭Discodog




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,802 ✭✭✭MacDanger


    Thanks for that; will try the flywheel key first and then have a look at the blade clutch if it's still not working



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