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Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,708 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    We are not taking about FGM here, though, an activity which causes permanent disfigurement without the permission of the individual. This is people choosing to fail to adhere to the civic responsibilities for which they volunteered ahead of time.

    1. The House "Sergeant at Arms or an officer appointed by the Sergeant at Arms for that purpose" (likely DPS) will have made the arrest.
    2. There is no charge, it is a civil arrest.
    3. No judge is required for certain civil arrest warrants in the US. I have written such warrants as part of my miltary duties in two states. It goes straight from the person authorised by law to write them to the police. (Technically in Texas i can issue a verbal order, but in practice i find people prefer paper trails. In Nevada, the NRS required a written order to arrest).
    4. Not a judgement. Under the Texas Government Code, the arrest may be ordered by the majority of those legislators present. The government code further states "the main entrance to the hall and all other doors leading out of the hall shall be locked and no member permitted to leave the house without the written permission of the speaker" and "the house shall determine on what conditions they shall be discharged."

    I will add that this part of the code is voted on with every regular session. The current legislature voted on it in January of this year. 117-35. 34 of the "no" votes were Republican. One was Democrat. Nicole Collier, the representative currently spending the night on the floor, voted in favor of the adoption of these rules.

    You are, again, welcome.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,283 ✭✭✭bog master


    Make America Great Again by whitewashing the past and rewriting history.

    https://us.cnn.com/2025/08/19/politics/trump-slavery-museum-smithsonian



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,536 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Farming is cratering in the US. Even in an obvious pro-Trump organization, the Farm Journal, is having trouble spinning just how bad the soybean market is due to tariff and trade war nonsense, most of which started with Trump 1.0 but has only worsened. The video below is pretty lame because the talking heads will do everything possible not to criticisze CFTrump, but the comments… Especially amused by one of the talking heads saying that if there's a deal between the US and China, "Trump likes to be shown shaking hands so this won't happen till November when he's scheduled to meet with Xi."

    Hilarious.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,562 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    @Manic Moran

    Expressing concern about kids being injured against their will with FMG, while normalizing carrying a gun?

    Pretty sure all those kids that suffered due to gun violence did so against their will too.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 17,708 Mod ✭✭✭✭Manic Moran


    There are positives and negatives to the policy, i am unable to come up with any demonstrable positives to FGM.

    That topic, however, i submit is suited to one of the other threads on Boards created on the subject.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,536 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose




  • Site Banned Posts: 2,753 ✭✭✭thatsdaft


    Wasn’t he also telling us guns are needed to stop US being hijacked by tyrants who want to become king?

    Well that aged well

    Anyways

    Having children is a dangerous (and expensive) undertaking in US in first place, never mind worrying about your kids being killed by the gun “culture” in their own schools



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 4,231 ✭✭✭Field east


    ‘God we tween us and all harm’ if someone in the US does not like you - for whatever innocuous, trumped up , malicious, non- sensical reason eg. Maybe they do not like your haircut- that you can be arrested.

    And in the course of your incarceration/ detainment you are quizzed and they something against you that you cannot prove AND AWAY WE GO

    . God help us it sounds as bad as Russia - unless you have finance to buy your way out or/and it is found out that you are someone of importance or very connected to someone very important or/ and you are a known GOP supporter



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,562 ✭✭✭✭everlast75


    "There are positives and negatives to the policy"

    There are positives to the lack of regulation of guns?

    Not in the real world there isn't.

    Elect a clown... Expect a circus



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,383 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Better sales for arms manufacturers and more jobs. It's an abysmal trade off though. I'd rather have vastly fewer dead children.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,616 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    I have no doubt he will do all he can to remain so, but it will not be via the ballot box unless there is a change to their constitution and I cannot see that happening.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,215 ✭✭✭CowboyTed


    I think this is a major point… Putin knows that having a refugee population all over EU is causing problems internally… Just look at the anti-migrants stuff in Ireland and we would be one of the more tolerant…

    So using refugees to destabilise EU is now an aim (if it wasn't before)…

    Personally I think we should:

    1. Set up a Mercenary Airforce to give Ukraine Air superiority. This is done by loaning/renting them planes and allow there own pilots and ground crews to serve (on double pay) in Ukraine.
    2. Get a mercenary army from third world to fight… Pay them well… I know the morals thing but the pay would be exceptional… So we are thinking the likes of India, Nepal, Bangladesh…. Someone in a military would know who would be suitable… Volunteers a Nepal Sargent makes 180 euros a month… We could pay a 1000 euros tax free..
    3. Anyone buying Russian Oil will be tariffed into the EU from now on…
    4. Bombard Russia in a cyber war… Hijack there Media and internet… Go on the attack… Constant undermining Russian leadership, use misinformation, AI generated videos and pictures… Make Putin hated in his own land.. And then keep that department for our Cyber warfare division, if there is an EU army this is the main one…
    5. Explain when this goes bad, Putin we want you, personally… We ideally want you in Hague but if we have too we will be more direct. If he threatens Nuclear, say to every Russian he threatening the end of Russia and someone who loves their family knows what to do.

    EU picks up the bill. Make it clear that the EU is not to be messed with… We don't stir easy but when we do we will finish it…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,616 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    Even a fully loaded Trump SCOTUS could not change the constitution so he could run in 2028. It would need a two thirds majority in both Congress and Senate or a two third majority of states. Hwhere he would declare martial law e would never get those numbers. With how he has been using the military I would be more incline to look on it as him trying to provoke some kind of civil unrest where he would use martial law as an excuse to cancel elections and hold on to power that way.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,616 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    That was a bit different though.

    He was found guilty by the Senate of causing insurrection by 57 - 43, but as it wasn`t a two thirds majority he was acquitted. So even if a stacked SCOTUS was only too happy to help him out then. For him to be eligble to even be on the ballot for 2028 would require a change to the constitution which would require a two third majority in both Senate and Congress or a two third majority of States, and SCOTUS would have no say in the matter.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,853 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    I don't believe the constitution even mentions ballot requirements. In fact each state has different requirements to appear on presidential election ballots, hence why some independents don't appear on all 50 state ballots.

    Being eligible for appearing on a ballot and being eligible to be elected president are 2 different things. The state laws seem to govern the first and the constitution the second.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,724 ✭✭✭yagan


    Gun culture certainly is a US cultural distinction.

    It might have made sense over two centuries ago when European monarchies and tyrannies controlled territories and peoples by force, like the Penal Laws in Ireland, but to accept regular mass murder in a modern democracy as a cultural norm to me is unpalatable.

    I thought Sandy Hook would have been a water shed, a horror so dreadful to finally shift the debate about that gun culture into this century, but alas it did not.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,045 ✭✭✭RickBlaine


    Trump referred to himself as a war hero in an interview yesterday. I wonder how actual war heroes who voted for him feels about that. Isn't that basically stolen valor.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    In Texas, is this about some legislator failing to show up for a vote representing the constituents and thereby silencing the constituents OR about some legislator failing to show up for a vote representing the constituents and thereby preventing other legislators from silencing the constituents by changing the constituency boundaries with the intent to deny the constituents the right to vote for the party legislator of their choice?

    Changing the constituency boundaries inevitably prevents Joe Bloggs and his wife living at No 12, Wiltshire Drive, from voting for their favoured party rep as they have been moved to another constituency by a vote from the legislators who did it for beneficial gain and not the gain of the voter.

    The alternative to "vote for whom I choose to let you vote for where I choose to let you vote in" is that the voter could always move house and neighbourhood and constituency to vote for the legislator of choice. Its not really much of a choice for the voter AND yes it's clear that both main parties could engage in such activities purely for the benefit of the parties and not the constituents.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,347 ✭✭✭✭aloyisious


    What has the liar in chief done overnight to increase the goodness of the situation Ukraine's citizens are in, courtesy of the Russians?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,920 ✭✭✭Brief_Lives


    the man has no shame.

    was it in relation to his "stopping" the wars in Africa?



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,711 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    Americans going on about guns being part of their 'culture' reminds me of followers of the Orange Order and their 'culture' up north.

    Both seem to have their 'culture' rooted in destruction, harm and opposition to others.

    Meanwhile, other world cultures tend to veer towards language, creativity, art and self expression through unity.

    Really says a lot about a society tbh.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,616 ✭✭✭✭charlie14


    I don`t know if it makes much difference.

    Without a two third majority in both the House and Senate vote to change the Constitution he couldnot be ratified as President even if he won the ballot vote and the chances of that majority are slim to none existent. 34 states voting to change the constitution would also be slim, and to try for it and fail would leave him nowhere to go even before a ballot was cast.

    I have no doubt that he will try anything he can get away with to hold on to power, but I believe even he knows there is no way he can do it democratically under the Constitution and the much greater liklihood of him attempting to do so is like all other dictators, through the military on some trumped up state of war scenario he is mumbling about lately. For me Los Angeles and Washington are trial runs based on that.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,536 ✭✭✭✭Igotadose


    Elect him to the Senate rather than the House, like John Quincy Adams was. Then, he can be a gadfly and not actually do anything but get in front of the cameras whenever he wants, and no danger of him getting back in the WH. Then he dies and they have a funeral and he's done. Plus, as a Senator, he can run his gangster businesses all he wants with no oversight - not like anything is happening in the WH, but the Senate's just as bad.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,045 ✭✭✭RickBlaine


    It is actually far far worse than that. He was talking about Netanyahu on the Mark Levin radio show. His exact quote is:

    “I worked with your friend Bibi...He’s a war hero. I guess I am, too.”

    What a repugnant sentence! Aside from Trump's shameless narcissism, Netanyahu is responsible for bombing hospitals and causing the deaths of 1000s of innocent children. Hardly worthy of being called a war hero.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,853 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    Well it makes a difference as you stated he wouldn't appear on the ballot. I'm just saying there's nothing in the Constitution about who can and cannot be on the ballot. That's a state issue.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 399 ✭✭scuba8


    I think you should check the laws in relation to those warrants. The warrants only remain in force during the session in which they were issued. Because the session has ceased the warrants have expired. A new session has not been declared so there are no new warrants in existence.

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    There is a lot of hand wringing going on in relation to this gerrymandering. It was decreed by Trump that Abbot get him 5 new seats from Texas and that is what Abbot is doing. He is abusing the power he has and not even trying to hide it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,619 ✭✭✭CelticRambler


    That's (probably) not entirely coincidental. There's a very strong Scottish Presbyterian tradition in US political culture dating back to … about the same time as they were planted in Ireland. A lot of their wacky puritanism (attitude to low-level vulgarisms like "ass"/"pussy" and opposition to "under-age" drinking by twenty-year olds, for example) stems from the same source. Even the whole independence from Britain thing was born out of Britain's move towards a more modern society that the expat Presbyterians felt was too much, too soon!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 44,383 ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Ulster Unionists don't have a culture. Deep down, I think they know this which is why they're so reliant on shows of force and state support.

    At least red states probably have some local cuisines, country music and the like.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 5,787 ✭✭✭dmcdona


    Netanyahu is an alleged War Criminal currently at large.



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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 17,421 Mod ✭✭✭✭Quin_Dub


    No.. He couldn't

    That isn't a loop-hole

    He isn't eligible so he could not accept the position of VP, as to be VP he has to be eligible for the position of POTUS.

    During his 1st term in Office he had Mitch McConnells wife as Transport Sec and she was explicitly removed from the Order of succession , she would have been something like 20th in line so largely moot but she was removed because she was not legally eligible to take the office of President (as she is not a "natural born" US citizen).

    There are no legal routes to Trump taking office a 3rd time.

    However given the state of the rule of law in the US at present (and how much worse it might be in ~3.5 years time) It is not unreasonable to ask the question though of what would happen should he refuse to step down in January 2028 for example by claiming that the Election result was invalid if his GOP successor was to lose?

    Who would actually force his removal ?

    A DOJ led by Pam Bondi?

    An FBI led by Kash Patel?

    A Military led by Pete Hegseth?

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