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  • Administrators Posts: 55,668 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    To be fair though, the workload of the President is significantly different to the workload of a TD.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,650 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    SK doesn't seem to be in favour with HQ.

    I'm not finding it hard to see why; he's just the epitome of "pale, male & stale," the antithesis of the image FG are looking to project going forward…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 39,760 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Irish Times quoted an FG TD who said that he would vote for Kelly because he was a GAA man and a fellow Munster man. I mean, really? is that sort of small minded parochialism what contemporary Ireland needs? Thankfully it seems few in his party agree with him (edit: in that the above is a good enough reason to vote for somebody. If they have good reasons to vote for him then fine)

    Post edited by Hotblack Desiato on

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Administrators Posts: 55,668 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Kelly's defeat is so resounding that it looks like of amateurish for him to even declare in the first place. Surely his team would have been polling over the weekend?

    Humphreys didn't appear out of thin air yesterday.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,653 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Kelly isn't stupid. Had to have been people telling him he had their support.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,050 ✭✭✭realdanbreen


    Not sure what you mean by " contemporary Ireland ". Do you mean the Leinster rugger buggers who previously fawned over the likes of fraudsters like Brendan Mullin or David Drumm?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,817 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Of course the Assad support has been debunked numerous times but you are a self-proclaimed FF/FG voter so like the hospital emergency, the housing emergency and the next crisis/emergency nobody expects you to understand it.

    With that being said I completely understandable that a right-wing voter such as yourself wouldn't be inclined to vote for either candidate



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 12,858 ✭✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,374 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Something being "debunked" to the satisfaction of people who already support Connolly does not actually mean it was debunked.

    Syria, Russia, Wallace, Daly and Gemtrails will come back again and again and again; and nothing Connolly has said has made any of them any better.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,886 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    I once heard it said about the left; if you press the nuclear button on every issue, pretty soon nobody knows what your priorities are, because obviously you want to spend everybody else's money on everything, and so everyone stops listening.

    The Assad stuff will pursue Connolly throughout the campaign, debunked or not. Thats what presidential campaigns are.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 608 ✭✭✭Madeoface


    Labour rolling in behind CC is pathetic. She left the party and was scathing about it. No wonder Labour are screwed.

    The only circumstance I'd vote for cc is if that criminal Bertie was her rival.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,653 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    The danger is overplaying it. Public aren't stupid and they'll react if they think somebody is being hounded about things they've already addressed.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,817 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    Yes, facts are usually an issue for right wingers

    I'm not sure what that has to do with the upcoming presidential election

    I've noticed a lot of comments similar to this online and in person. Right wingers throwing out random comments here and there in the hope that it sticks in the minds of the gullible, a form of brainwashing if you will. It suggests they are somewhat scared of losing this one.

    Yet you mention UHL or John McNulty and most will feign ignorance!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,374 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Far, far more people than just right wingers find Connollys actions and associations exceptionally problematic.

    The hand-waving "it's been debunked" "it's been addressed" stuff isn't going to work. Every media interview, every debate she's going to be pushed on this and her response to it all so far convinces nobody but those who had already decided to vote for her. Which is far from enough to get elected.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,817 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    An attempt by Labour to try and shake off their recent time in government with FG and establish themselves as a party of the left. In the absence of them having the numbers for their own nomination it also means they don't have to back the SF candidate, especially if that is MLMD. A smart move from them by all accounts.

    They really don't

    I refer you to my earlier point of throwing out random comments.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,374 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    You consider anyone who isn't you to be right wing. I'm using the actual definition of the term.

    Pointing out someones associations with utterly distasteful people; or their utterly distasteful to insane opinions on geopolitical events, is not "throwing out random comments"; and the abject inability of either Connolly (or her supporters on here) to understand and deal with that is why she'll end up losing to someone who was forced in to the race late as a substitute.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,886 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    They didn't have the numbers to do anything on their own. But the correct signal would have been to stay out of it entirely.

    Their old advisor Fergus Finlay was scathing about them backing Connolly, in the Irish Times yesterday.

    "There’s a lot of stuff I don’t agree with Catherine Connolly about, there’s a lot of stuff I admire her for. But Catherine Connolly left the Labour Party because we wouldn’t give her a nomination to run alongside Michael D Higgins, and she has never had a good word to say about the Labour Party from that moment on,”

    “And now we’re backing her. And I have no problem with members of the Labour Party going out and voting for Catherine Connolly, none in the wide, Earthly world. But I don’t know what she’s done to deserve our support, to be absolutely honest with you.”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/sinn-fein-launches-first-attack-presuming-heather-humphreys-is-fg-presidential-pick/a505227672.html

    It didn't take long for the thuggish element in Sinn Fein to come out with its immediate knee-jerk reaction to the prospect of a Protestant becoming President of Ireland.

    His understanding of true republicanism is so primitive that he used the word "sacred" to describe a republican site!!!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,817 ✭✭✭✭Red Silurian


    There you go again with your random comments, I consider plenty of people who aren't me to not be right wing

    Until evidence of her support of Assad is established I think most people would consider it hearsay at best or random comments

    What the right really need is proof of what she said about Assad because otherwise nobody will believe them. I wouldn't hold my breath though



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 31,514 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    They met with the head of the chamber of commerce of Aleppo. Can she remember his name? She said she did not have it to hand. I put it to her that the meeting was with a man named Farah Chehabi. He was sanctioned at the time by the EU for “providing economic support” to the Assad regime.

    Asked if she knew this before she met him, Connolly says: “I can’t comment on that right now because I don’t have the list before me.” But she insists “there was no praise for the regime”.

    She adds that she is on record for condemning Assad, although she did vote against sanctions on Syria.

    Connolly is also unclear on who exactly organised the trip. “It was a group in Dublin that organised it,” she says.

    But who was that group? They were “a group of Palestinian activists who were very concerned”. So individuals? “Yes,” she says, but we are left none the wiser as to who.

    I think you will struggle to find many people who consider this as the issue having been "addressed". It's insanely vague and evasive and is only going to encourage more questions. The "I can't comment right now cause I don't have the list" is particularly absurd for a question that anyone with the slightest bit of cop on would have known was coming.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    At best it made clear her unpreparedness for the interview, her lack of attention to detail and her failure to be briefed on pertinent issues.

    Those alone make her unsuitable for the Presidency.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,374 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Your concept of "random comments" is as out of reality as your concept of "right wing".

    You can't hand-wave away difficult truths as "random comments"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,650 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Harry Magge on Radio 1 said SF are looking at running Rose Conway-Walsh. As a Mayo man I suppose I should be excited at the prospect of another of our ladies getting the big job but I can't see RCW being more than a marginal improvement on Liadh Ni Riada…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,653 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Look, you may think people are stupid, but the negative slanting and the insinuation from the writer is leaping off the page in that.
    I guess if you are susceptible to that type of writing you will believe what you are being prodded to believe by the writer.
    This the most blatant bit:

    She adds that she is on record for condemning Assad, although she did vote against sanctions on Syria.

    Connolly has been very vocal on sanctions destroying the lives of innocents and ordinary people. It is not because she has some sort of closet support for Assad which is what the writer was insinuating.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 39,760 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Do you think happening to be from the same area as someone and happening to like the same sport they do is a good enough reason on its own to vote for them?

    Whether we're talking Dublin and rugby (stereotyping, much?) or GAA and Kerry, it's just as bad in my book

    Were the two people you brought up ever in FG? What is their relevance to the presidential election?

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 31,514 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Look, you may think people are stupid, but the negative slanting and the insinuation from the writer is leaping off the page in that.

    Her own, deeply evasive, words are on the page. I do not think people are stupid, which is why I think absolutely nobody is going to be convinced that the questions were actually addressed. Her answers literally boil down to "oh I don't know" - it is the exact opposite of addressing anything. There is no slant possible that can be put on that that changes the core of her (non-)answers. You wouldn't accept this nonsense from anyone else.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,899 ✭✭✭✭dulpit


    Sinn Féin are going to attack whoever the Fine Gael candidate is. The fact she is a Protestant has nothing to do with that, and I doubt the push back from Mark Ward has anything to do with that. Sure 2 of our previous presidents have been Protestants too…



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Sanctions don't hurt the lives of innocents and ordinary people in any way as much as the dictators that they are directed against hurt the lives of innocents and ordinary people.

    The failure to impose stronger sanctions on Syria allowed Assad to flourish and to kill and to maim his own people.

    The nonsense from Connolly about sanctions is just that. Strange that she is so opposed to sanctions but supports the OTB. Actually not strange, but blatantly hypocritical. Is she not worried about the ordinary Israeli people?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,195 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    His use of a religious adjective to describe Moore Street and his attempt to falsely blame her for something says differently.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,374 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    I'm not even sure she has the name recognition that LNR had. No famous father there.



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