Israel/Palestine Thread

I have no idea what she goes off the rails about. I saw her on rte news a few months back, and one or twice since about that Thurnberg flotilla.

And again, I don't believe that quote (and apologies if I'm taking it out of context if her other quotes prove me wrong), but she seems to be saying that Hamas are not all fighters or terrorists and she is absolutely correct. I'd argue the people who carried out Oct 7th and the politicians who ordered them are legitimate targets for Israel, but again, not the doctors, nurses, teacher, ambulance drivers etc that are being killed by Israel as being "Hamas". They are warcrimes.

A simple question, do you believe a Gazan doctor, who works day in day out in a hospital treating the sick and wounded from his community is a legitimate target, as he works for Hamas?

I'd ask again you answer the question and not ignore it and give me 10 more.

it’s unbelievably tiring when you’ll jump through hoops and all around in circles, calling anti semitism and giving everyone a biased history lecture but still can’t bring yourself to condemn the collective punishment of millions, the targeted shooting and killing of innocents trying to get food, murder of journalists, doctors and everything else that has been going on for nearly 2 years now.

Paragraph after paragraph about Israel’s right to exist, but ignoring the fact they’ve constantly expanded their borders and are literally chasing innocents off their land. It’s happening right now.

It’s absolutely disgraceful. I honestly don’t know how you people can look at your own kids, after spewing nonsense day after day to justify the killing of innocents the way you do.

What a complete load of nonsense.

I think anyone with even a shred of intelligence can differentiate between "an aspiration for a Jewish state" and "an aspiration for a Jewish state whilst completely **** over a pre-existing population". There is a world of difference between the two ideas, but the creation of Israel falls very much into the latter camp, which is why it is viewed as evil. There was not a push for a Jewish state from those already living in the Middle-East before Zionism, and it was pretty much a European movement. In general, outside of colonial projects, immigrants don't get their own country within 30 years of moving somewhere, especially when in the minority. Why would the Arabs not have an aspiration to a state in 1920 when they made up 90% of the population?

It was well known that any attempt to force a Jewish state on the Arab population would require bloodshed and the Zionists never shirked from that possibility at any point.

You are so full of **** that it's not even worth tackling these points. Not once have you actually provided any ACTUAL evidence of Albanese being anti-Semitic.

Legal experts have pointed out there is no such concept as a country's 'right to exist' under international law : the Irish constitution makes no such claim, nor does any other country's constitution. It's politically charged gobbledygook churned out by Zionists.

International law is mostly concerned with the rights of 'peoples' to exist i.e. the right to self determination of the people (which is recognised in the Irish Constitution - Article 1). Any country that exists, exists….it doesn't need to be stated in their constitution or as a legal concept.

thanks for those links.

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Yes, and Lebensraum was a policy even before the Final Solution - Hitler was talking about Lebensraum long before he invaded Russia. Such expansion all falls under the general category of 'ethnic cleansing'.

It's remarkable, isn't it. We walk past people like that every day and never know what they are like.

I'm speechless, I shouldn't be, it's a gang of Ben-Gvir supporters, but still.

Interesting article from Benny Morris after he visited Ireland recently.

https://bennymorris.substack.com/p/the-irish-and-gaza