Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

America's president is a whiny spoiled brat crybaby

On a diversion from the thread, (sorry folks) that is the beauty of reserve units: that they have people with differing trades and hands-on workplace experience, in your case policing. Not applicable in Ireland as the state forbids RDF Pers from jobs which are linked to Civil defence or Civil police as they are all seen as vital tasks. Call-up strips essential people from equally important roles for the community.

It would be good if there was a regular engagement (twice yearly for 2 weeks) between Grn and Field MP Coys to increase the training and expertise of the Fld MP Coy Pers with planned input from CID, Civil Police, Prosecutors etc in the class lessons. Fd Ops Trg is OK but not essential on the evidence stand.

why does an Irish discussion forum need to know all the ‘anal details’ about America policing / military…?

Donald Trump’s top Middle East envoy said that a trilateral meeting between the leaders of Ukraine, Russia and the U.S. was likely to occur in the days ahead but did not provide specifics regarding the deal reached between the president and Vladimir Putin in Alaska.

Apparently Steve Witkoff has revealed that Putin agreed to allow the U.S. and its European allies to offer Ukraine a security guarantee at his meeting with Trump. “We were able to win the following concession: That the United States could offer Article 5-like protection, which is one of the real reasons why Ukraine wants to be in Nato," Witkoff told CNN.

He added that it “was the first time we had ever heard the Russians agree to that” and called them “game-changing.”

But the envoy wouldn’t specify whether the security guarantee could lead to what Trump and his followers have long opposed — a promise to directly engage U.S. troops in defense of Ukraine should Russia continue crossing Trump’s red lines.

Something has me keeping the salt cellar handy on the desk as the Article 5-like protection Witkoff mentioned does not amount to the same as that in NATO. Ditto for an actual combined European power group meeting with Trump and his team. It seems to me that Trump would like to wriggle out of it on any grounds possible to avoid being caught in the footlights as Putin's puppet but might not be able to due to his mouth. A orchestrated blow-up wouldn't work against such an experienced European group as id did with Zelenskyy on his own.

I have to admit Newsom’s mirroring of Trump on Twitter is very funny.

The whole when they go low we go high hasn’t worked for the Democrats over the last decade maybe it’s time to play Trump at Trumps game for a bit.

Like all bullies he will attempt to crush other to make himself important and powerful, but I don`t believe the power grab in DC and deploying the military has anything to do with either crime or the homeless.

It`s the thin edge of a wedge to keep him in power like all those dictators he admires so much.

Not really ..Vance is unelectable he is too unlikeable insincere

*if* Trump is not running in 2028, the only worry I'd have is the damage done between now and then

So *this* is the deal Putin told Trump to take to end the war. What a negotiator!

Wouldn't expect Crimea to go back to Ukraine or them joining NATO anyway. That's a reality. Ceasefire is the first prerequisite, otherwise Putin just drags it out.

Just going back to that post earlier about people in US not watching BBC/reading Guardian etc.

I'd say there's a considerable portion of people there who dont give a sh1t what happens in Europe and couldn't care less if Russia attacks Eastern Europe (I fear that's not too far away, I just hope they honor their NATO commitments).

I've been wondering about this tho, is it in the US national interest to honor article 5? Like would a war involving the Baltics and Poland impact on the US economically and strategically? I know ultimately that will lead to war with Western Europe but I'm just trying to get into their mindset and to see if anyone has any insight into the need for the US for there to be stability in Europe.

I think the original basis of NATO, and the desire of the signatories, was to keep the bear from the door. That included the US as a major player in the pact.

If one were now living in the US, and had listened to Putin's speech in Alaska of him recalling the historical ties that US state had with Mother Russia, Czarist though it was at the time of its sale to the US, one might well be thinking "Jeez, has that guy just said he lusts after Alaska as part of Russia" and then follow up on that thought with thoughts on how one would keep an invader out of Alaska or at least make it a very bloody enterprise for a Russian revanchist with invasion in mind.

Putin is not thinking past tense where it comes to territorial ties to Mother Russia, he thinks solidly in the 21st century present tense time. As Sarah Palin said, she could see Russia from her front door. Those who should have US interests at heart should be thinking on how to keep the bear away from Alaska, not standing next to the bear on a US military base in Alaska grooving on about centuries old memories and territorial ambitions.