Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 02/09/25*

Has BREXIT not taught the pro open-borders anything? Not one thing?

Stop importing mass unskilled labour to feed capitalist pigs who happen to change their Twitter avatar to rainbow on June 1st every year to appease the 'lefties'.

The traditional left would have seen through this BS and turned their backs.

Today's supposedly 'far-right' have more in common with the 1960's leftie hippies than those who think their lefties in the current day 2020s.

Really? If Pa Cash or Hugh Ward from Basildon were on BBC Radio 4 speaking out about prejudice against Irish people, would you listen to them? Honestly? C'mon man!

I don't think you can separate the growth in the population from the shortage of housing or strain on services. It's not the only reason, but its a big part of it.

Thats not to scapegoat migrants. But just as we shouldn't scapegoat, neither should policymakers ignore the obvious.

It is true that the planning system has always been slow.

In the 1980s, you could buy a bungalow for £50,000 on average.

The planning system won't be addressed because there are too many cogs in the wheel like the legal profession, planners, consultants getting rich off it.

The government does control the issue of non-EEA work permits. They issue about 30,000-40,000 a year. As low skilled jobs are largely not eligible for work permits, that points to them being more middle.high income.

The economist Cormac Lucey has said on the radio a few years ago that immigration may be a factor in pressure on house prices. The law of demand and supply is a factor.

Regarding asylum-seekers, I think the generous conditions in Ireland relative to say Denmark is a factor in the rise in the number of claims in recent years. Its true it has fallen this year, perhaps in part because the Greens are no longer in the government.

Last year we had 149,200 immigrants and 69,900 emigrants resulting in a net gain of 79,300 people. Link to the CSO report on these figures at this link. Thats the highest for 18 years and back then it was Eastern European migration, which has greatly reduced. The number of Poles in Ireland has actually reduced. It was 110,800 (93680 only Polish, 17152 dual citizens) in 2022, which is a 24% drop from 2016 when there were 122,515 Polish nationals. Link to Irish Times report on this here.

I think some Poles are returning to Poland because of economic improvements in Poland—especially post-EU accession and following Brexit—have drawn many returnees home. Improved infrastructure and job markets are cited reasons.

Le Monde.frPoland Insight

Also I do condemn the recent attacks on Indians.

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Will never happen.

The Government will do like all the previous ones and ignore it as much as possible and immigration is certainly something the opposition parties like SF, SDs and Lab don't want to talk about.

Those figures April 23-24 were released at end of August last year, so with a but of luck we'll be getting the April 24-25 figures soon. Although the cynic in me thinks they'll try and bury the figures to try and take heat away from the government failings.

So they're being attacked because they're immigrants.

That really isn't the 'but..' you think it is.

Also, 'we have to have a converstaion' - immigration has been the dominant topic for the last 2+ years. Anyone peddling the 'we need to have a conversation' line is chatting utter bollocks at this stage.

It's long gone past the "we need to have a conversation" part. As an immature country lead by student union politics we've never even got started on the conversation because every time someone spoke about controlling immigration the open borders brigade started screeching racism, islamophobia, bigot, nazi, etc… to shut down any debate.

Now the chickens are home to roost we are seeing more and more ordinary people voice up about their concerns, the 'stigma' of being called racist and all the other low IQ tropes don't wash as well any more. The open borders brigades need to take responsibility for what they have advocated for all along.

Social cohesion is breaking down, the social contract is broken. This is the 'new Ireland' yea have shaped and created. Ireland of a thousand welcomes is dead in the grave. Slow clap. Well done boys and girls, take a fcuking bow and own it.

Absolutely Pete we are way past the time for a conversation.

Time to knock the learning English student scam on the head.

Work Visa's on a point based system n tightened up massively. We are at 12% youth unemployment now.

The over 80% economic migrants masquerading as asylum seekers ( according to our taoiseach) deported.

EU citizens that can't support themselves, return to sender.

Housing crisis , say goodbye to the housing the world crisis!

And peddling the line that any conversation about immigration is far right driven racism, is a bigger load of bollox

Definitely is a sign of being orchestrated by the government to help with pushing through hate speech legislation and taking attention off them regarding recent **** ups

Good thing is I think anyone with half a brain sees right through it and the ridiculous attention this India issue has gotten .

The old as the hills 'dead cat strategy'. You're absolutely spot on, this Indians being attacked left right and centre is a clearly orchestrated deflection tactic to save Simon Harris' ass. It has the 'institute for strategic dialogue' fingerprints all over it. You can see what they're all about in this short snappy RTE story here:

Anti-migrant mobilisation now 'more organised' - monitor

You can bet your bottom dollar that this publication has fed into how the Government and it's media lackeys are spotlighting the Indian story with a medium-term view to reviving McEntee's hate speech legislation amendments.

That is exactly what is happening. The authoritarian left has never gone away you know, just waiting in the long grass biding their time. The thing people don't realise about the authoritarian left is, it generally gets voted in via programmes that reward laziness and punish productivity - but then when it all goes breasts up, you have to shoot your way out of it.

The very predictable 'can't see the forest for the trees' response from the open borders brigade. Do you honestly think the existence of a strong lobby for open-borders doesn't exist?!!! Fun fact - our government openly funds such organisations using our taxes to do so. Look up Nick Henderson and his antics to see just one example of it in motion.

Reform UK will go the same way once people learn more of Farage and his army of deplorables.

Straight out of the Hillary Clinton playbook. Now, that didn't work out so well for her, did it?

https://www.irishtimes.com/ireland/2025/08/17/states-population-grew-by-almost-90000-last-year-eu-figures-show/

Population growing at 7 times the EU average

So unsustainable. This growth is overwhelmingly driven by migration.

How anyone can try and pretend this is not having a large impact on housing/rent prices not to mention our services.

Denying this is simply detached from reality, moronic.