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Immigration and Ireland - MEGATHREAD *Mod Note Added 02/09/25*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,372 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    The st Patrick's day parades in america promote another country (ireland ) in America. The dynamic is the same. Irish Americans ( some not even irish citizens) are involved in their organisation so that would be American citizens promoting a foreign country.

    And really, at the end of the day, what harm does it cause anyone. There is no good reason to be against them, either paddies day parades in America or India culture day in Ireland.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭lmao10


    It reached a point of making no sense. Criticise the India day for having government and embassy support, then when it gets pointed out Paddys day does the same, you post something that makes no sense in return. Reread your first paragraph in the context and it makes zero sense.

    India Day also happens in Australia which again makes the second paragraph completely nonsensical.

    Chatgptness absolutely dripping off your posts. I will therefore not engage as you simply don't make sense.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 661 ✭✭✭Marcos


    You took the words right out of my mouth. Adrian Minnock is never going to live that one down.

    When most of us say "social justice" we mean equality under the law opposition to prejudice, discrimination and equal opportunities for all. When Social Justice Activists say "social justice" they mean an emphasis on group identity over the rights of the individual, a rejection of social liberalism, and the assumption that unequal outcomes are always evidence of structural inequalities.

    Andrew Doyle, The New Puritans.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭lmao10


    Multiple reports indicate targeted assaults specifically on Indians. There's video evidence of some. There's first person reporting from the victims. There's also common sense which no word salad can get around I'm afraid.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,372 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    The British were colonisers of Ireland, they have a total different history with Ireland than India. Maybe some day there will be a st georges day celebration or something similar here.I hope we never reach a stage where we force people with shared heritage to give up their heritage.

    I'm glad the Irish don't have to give up their heritage when they go abroad and that every year the Irish can celebrate the paddies day festival in Mumbai, India.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,661 ✭✭✭Bogey Lowenstein
    That must be Nigel with the brie...


    Somebody who looked very much like him was caught robbing houses in Belfast. It probably wasn't reported to the PSNI. I think he got a few slaps instead.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 794 ✭✭✭Phat Cat


    There were three serious attacks on Indians reported. Was this tragic? Absolutely. Did it warrant the widespread hysteria we’ve seen from the media and the left? Absolutely not. Were the Garda and local Irish citizens seriously assaulted within the same timeframe as these mindless attacks? Sure, but they are less important to the media and the left for some reason.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭lmao10




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 794 ✭✭✭Phat Cat


    How many were there then?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭lmao10


    So you don't even know how many there were but you're comfortable making conclusions about the nature of the attacks.. attacks that you don't even know about?

    Sounds about right…



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 22,799 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    That's a lot of typing there for no reason whatsoever



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 794 ✭✭✭Phat Cat


    I said there were three assults reported, you were the one that insinuated that I was wrong.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,372 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 794 ✭✭✭Phat Cat


    Over the last few weeks three have been reported and that sparking a media backlash and widespread hysteria:

    In the west Dublin suburb of Tallaght, a group of teenagers accosted, beat and partially stripped an Indian man, who was then filmed staggering and bleeding. Days later a gang attacked another Indian man in the nearby suburb of Clondalkin, hitting him in the face, chest, back and legs, leaving him with a fracture, gashes and multiple bruises. Days later again, two male passengers turned on an Indian taxi driver in the north Dublin suburb of Ballymun, striking him across the face with a bottle and shouting: “Go back to your country.”

    All of these acts are terrible, and such violence should never be condoned or tolerated in a civilized society. However, the media’s portrayal has been extremely exaggerated, and senior heads of state getting involved has only served to blow it completely out of proportion.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,372 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    I'm not sure how many of the 16 attacks were classified as serious. I get it, you think there has mass hysteria to the latest three attacks but it seems the community actually affected by the attacks has a different view.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,405 ✭✭✭lmao10


    Yeah we went over that. When Irish people become citizens of other countries they should be allowed to have Paddys day but Indians become citizens of other countries they shouldn't be allowed to have India day because… this was the part where chatgpt ran you around in circles.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,372 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    I think at this stage they're not going to accept the opposing view.

    It's slightly funny that some posters were initially annoyed that they dared cancel this event and now we have a poster being against the event in principle.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 92,394 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Ruth Coppinger TD said, “Gardai haven’t a clear record of race or nationality or ethnic background! Why and how is this acceptable?”

    She added, “People have a right to have crimes against them taken seriously. But we can’t rely on Gardai to challenge racism when their own record is so poor in dealing with people of colour, Travellers etc. We have to challenge racism from the ground up on every workplace, school, college, club and community.”

    Whomever breaks the law old or young, needs to be punished but the young don't fear AGS as there is no where to send them, build more prisons and send from 15/16 upwards to prison and fine their families

    Ruth Coppinger said, “the far-right and all the politicians who’ve used racist or anti-refugee sentiments or organised charter flights – this is down to you.”

    She said, “it’s only a matter of time until someone is killed thanks to your scapegoating.”

    dublinpeople.com/news/northsidewest/articles/2025/08/13/indian-racism-criticised/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,445 ✭✭✭For Petes Sake


    As I said earlier, the standard has now been set to ‘ah shur how bad were the attacks?’

    I assume this standard will be applied to attacks where the assailant is an immigrant.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,293 ✭✭✭Patrick2010


    Have to agree, was in town in Dublin a couple of years ago for China new year celebrations and it was very enjoyable



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  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Following a recent series of seemingly random, unprovoked attacks on Indian nationals in Ireland, Garda analysts were asked to determine whether the assaults were part of a growing trend.

    This was easier said than done, however, as Garda systems do not allow for easy recording of crime victims’ ethnicity. However, after combing through the data, they determined there had been no significant increase in Indians living in Ireland being so targeted.

    That has not been reflected in national and international headlines.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/crime-law/2025/08/12/gardai-struggle-to-reassure-indian-community-amid-spate-of-high-profile-attacks/



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 800 ✭✭✭foxsake


    i don't know about you but when I'm in somebody elses country I tend to be on good behaviour.

    further to this point , we may have an underclass of anti social scum , forgive me for not wanting to add to it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,257 ✭✭✭PokeHerKing


    That standard was set a long time ago by people waving away islamic attacks as part of being a big modern city.

    Homophobic beheadings no big deal.

    Children stabbed in school no big deal.

    Gards being stabbed no big deal.

    Im still waiting for proof that the attack that set off this hysteria was actually racist in its planning.

    The above attacks that ive referenced were very much driven by an ideology.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,445 ✭✭✭For Petes Sake


    Attacks are attacks, we’ve all been attacked so just shut up about being attacked.

    Thats your standard. I’ll remind you of it next time you lose your mind about an assault because it’s by an immigrant.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,782 ✭✭✭DebDynamite


    Ruth Coppinger said, “the far-right and all the politicians who’ve used racist or anti-refugee sentiments or organised charter flights – this is down to you.”

    In response to Ruth Coppinger, I would say “To the politicians and broadcasters who deliberately lumped legal immigrants in with international protection applicants when legitimate concerns were being raised about the latter: this is on you.”



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭Jack Daw


    So the whole issue of the supposed "spate" of attacks on Indians in Ireland was blown out for proportion.

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 794 ✭✭✭Phat Cat


    Yep, that's what I've been saying, it was just the usual group of feral kids, the same juvenile delinquents who’ve been causing havoc across Dublin since the COVID lockdowns. It certainly wasn’t the “far-right bogeyman” behind the violence, despite the left being all too eager to point fingers and hurl accusations.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,840 ✭✭✭Potatoeman


    There was an Irish couple beaten up on a public bus in India a few years ago and the woman was gang raped. I can’t find a link, all results come back with recent assaults in Ireland.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,372 ✭✭✭Sudden Valley


    Why would you look up such a disturbing story? It doesn't justifiy the attacks on Indians here.



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  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Why would you keep pushing a narrative that the Gardaí dont support?

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