Israel/Palestine Thread

South Sudan denied yesterday that there were any negotiations with Israel on the "relocation" of Palestinians to Sudan.

So the relocation talks must be true.

I guess having seen the posted image of the UEFA cup match (which BBC sport didn't appear to mention by the way) I just had the notion that allowing Israel to participate in worldwide televised events and allowing the spectators and participants to peacefully protest would shame Israel on worldwide TV and get the message out to a wider audience.

But yes, I do agree and would actively support the banning of Israel in sporting events and music events. The boycotting of Israeli goods, services and companies (especially those involved in military equipment per @My name is URL) - absolutely.

And in fairness, I'd imagined a football game between an Israeli team versus any of the northern England lower-tier clubs would be a fiesty affair on and off the pitch. So probably safer just to ban Israel all-out.

More "settler" thuggery -

"Israeli far-right Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich said work would start on a long-delayed settlement that would divide the West Bank and cut if off from East Jerusalem, a move his office declared would "bury" the idea of a Palestinian state.

Standing at the site in Maale Adumim, Smotrich said Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and US President Donald Trump had agreed to the revival of the E1 scheme, though there was no immediate confirmation from either.

“Whoever in the world is trying to recognise a Palestinian state today will receive our answer on the ground. Not with documents nor with decisions or statements, but with facts. Facts of houses, facts of neighbourhoods," Smotrich said."

https://www.independent.ie/world-news/israels-bezalel-smotrich-announces-west-bank-settlement-plan-to-bury-idea-of-palestinian-state/a61557123.html

I would fully support allowing Israel to participate in international sporting and cultural events if any travelling supporters are screened on the way in, and every single member of the IDF or anyone with links to Likud or any of the settlement movement who participated in the genocide were detained and questioned and if necessary charged with any offenses they may have committed under international law.

(Including any participants in the events themselves)

Let the Israelis who were on the right side of history travel freely. Anyone who has been actively participating or supporting the genocide, should be be confronted with consequences of those crimes.

Smotrich belongs in The Hague along with Ben-Gvir. They must be held accountable for their utterly abhorrent behaviour.

Whilst they are sanctioned by the UK and others, they don't give a damn.

Let International justice deal with them and let them pay the price.

That may have been true a month ago.

@NIMAN is right - the last month especially has seen a crescendo of hard critisism of Israel along with commitments to revignise The Palestinian State. The importance of the UK and France doing so has been covered before.

The US support is not as robust as you might think - Trump already lost the rag with alleged war Criminal #1. They run the risk of being about the only country that supports genocide and regardless of the power they have, that is not a good look. There are plenty in the US opposed to Israel.

Much of the action has been forced on these politicians as a result of the public outcry - I noted the start of the increase when Greta Thunberg led the boat aid campaign. It has increased since then.

When the ICJ rules on the Genocide case, Israel will care - they will be internationally recognised as a Genocide State. They will be lumped in with the worst countries we know. So much for the only democracy in the ME with the most moral army in the world.

They are a Pariah already - but that stain is increasing to the point it will never wash off. Israelis see this - hence their own increasing calls for action - "not in our name"