Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

Penn · 13-08-2025 01:57PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123719294#Comment_123719294

I mean firstly, it's a pretty easy f*cking "No". That should be the obvious and immediate response, whether Leavitt was being flippant or not. But secondly, it would not be at all surprising if they actually did, simply to "own the libs" or whatever other bullsh*t. That's the whole reason the question was asked in the first place, because that's the mentality of these f*cking morons. They would rather completely devalue something which was previously deemed to be very significant (same way Trump keeps going on about how so many war veterans want to give him their Purple Heart medal) rather than face up to the idea that they would never be worthy of such an honour in the first place.

Oscar_Madison · 13-08-2025 01:59PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123719266#Comment_123719266

I’m at 2 minds but I think it’s better than doing nothing - if this is the sort of messaging that gets through then go for it would be my view - we need more outrageous but true statements coming from the Dems- they’re still using outdated methods to fight

Glenomra · 13-08-2025 02:35PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123719266#Comment_123719266

Well I agree with George Bernard Shaw, 'never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig loves it.'

thatsdaft · 13-08-2025 02:39PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123719191#Comment_123719191

THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION

everlast75 · 13-08-2025 02:41PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123719484#Comment_123719484

You're not going to turn off a neutral or a Democrat with mocking Trump.

And you shouldn't care about anyone else.

ronjo · 13-08-2025 02:45PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123719364#Comment_123719364

Great for his personal profile too…… Battle now is Trump v Newsome

breezy1985 · 13-08-2025 03:05PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123719484#Comment_123719484

It's satirising Trump. I'm sure Shaw wouldn't mind.

ceadaoin. · 13-08-2025 03:05PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123719364#Comment_123719364

That's not going to change the perception that many Californian cities are dirty and unsafe, and that its down to Newsomes/democratic party policies. He should probably do something about that rather than stoop to tweeting. Pretty much any big city I've been to in california in recent years has been overrun by mentally ill homeless people in the downtown areas. Was in Sacramento over the summer and the old town was awful, with drug addicts everywhere, people shouting at walls etc and no police in sight. Stuff like that is going to go against him in the public eye, it already does. He was able to clean up san francisco in record time when xi jinping was visiting, so we know he could do it if he wanted to

Oscar_Madison · 13-08-2025 03:15PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123719585#Comment_123719585

”Cleaning up” involves moving such people from the city centre to the suburbs or further afield- we’ve seen it happen in Dublin also albeit on a much smaller scale. It doesn’t address or solve the “problem”- Trumps view is the same with Gaza no less homeless people - out of sight out of mind- but in his eyes he’s “fixed” the problem - he hasn’t .

For Petes Sake · 13-08-2025 03:18PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123719191#Comment_123719191

The problem is, what's the alternative?

Trying to be the adults in the room hasn't worked for them. Republicans have allowed themselves to be held to a different standards so the Democrats have to lower themselves to basically point out how utterly evil the Republicans are.

yagan · 13-08-2025 03:42PM

Alternatively Trump is just the symptom of the US having reached the bottom of the barrel.

It is only a measure of how insular Ireland recently was that we still hold a candle for the USA, but alas the USA became great because the European powers bankrupted themselves with war and now the USA struggles with the rest of the world catching up and surpassing them.

Oscar_Madison · 13-08-2025 04:04PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123719688#Comment_123719688

“Alternatively Trump is just the symptom of the US having reached the bottom of the barrel.”

That’s kindof where I sit - there’s a panic and fear mindset going on in America that Trump and MAGA successfully stoked - any and all conspiracy theories are fair game - blame the brown people/the anti-semites, Europe, Canadians etc etc for all the troubles we haven’t been able to deal with and sort ourselves.

America should be embarrassed - but I don’t think they ever will be- they’re too arrogant and self centered to be embarrassed - even the Dems don’t know how to say “we got it wrong”

everlast75 · 13-08-2025 04:18PM

Anyone surprised that the *only* President of the United States to wish a child trafficker and sexual abuser "well", makes things plush for her?

Maxwell is now clear to leave prison on work release.

Speaking of release... Release the files.

eagle eye · 13-08-2025 04:47PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123719794#Comment_123719794

It's called having the dirt and having it spread out in many places so killing her gets it released.

She's not stupid or she wouldn't have gotten away with what she was at for so long.

Oscar_Madison · 13-08-2025 04:58PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123719794#Comment_123719794

She’ll be able to come out and play with Prince Andrew soon

MisterAnarchy · 13-08-2025 05:03PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123719794#Comment_123719794

Maxwell is now clear to leave prison on work release.

More conspiracy theories

She is not clear to leave prison.

Manic Moran · 13-08-2025 05:14PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123719624#Comment_123719624

You are correct that being the adults in the room has, on its own, not achieved success. But I don't see how this is going to help either. I don't see it attracting voters who aren't already skeptical of Trump, and those who are at least a little skeptical of Trump aren't going to have their votes changed by this either. Let alone the problems of how people react when you patronise them.

As for the alternatives, maybe it's worth their talking about things that people care about or walking back on a few issues: The subject, not the manner. It's worth noting that Newsom has, of late, started backtracking on the odd thing as well as understanding that perhaps not everyone in the country shares California-type liberal values or their mindset. And to his credit, he's acknowledging that perhaps some positions are not as popular nationally as perhaps he might have hoped. That doesn't necessarily mean to say that he agrees with the 'national' position, but at least he understands that you can't do a thing if you're not in office, and if it means moving back to the center to get there, then so be it.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/20/politics/kfile-gavin-newsom-podcast-policy-reversal-trans-sports-latinx

From March this year:

How many times have you seen someone say "People voting against their own interests"? Then look at Newsom's last line.

That's not a matter of people not liking adults (How else did Biden win? Trump didn't change much between 2020 and 2024), but a matter of people listening and not liking what they heard. The post-election analysis is filled with comments, from strategists and politicians, about how the party completely misread the mood of the country and how well their message was being received. Plenty of those links were posted on Boards at the time.

The problem for Newsom is that at this point his reputation is established. Republicans think that California is one of the Republican party's greatest advertisements, and Newsom has a 20-year track record of progressive positions (Together with a perception within California that he's always cared more about national ambition than his own job). Newsom's current position on things is not unique in the Democratic party, but there are such Democrats who are not saddled with a "Left Coast Elite" tag who have always had those more centrist positions.

eagle eye · 13-08-2025 05:28PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123719940#Comment_123719940

The Dems just need a smart white male candidate and they'll win the next election. Stick as a centre party and don't say you are going to screw the rich but make sure you are going to help the less well off and those people are struggling more than ever now.

An old man beat Trump, two women lost to him. Wake up and smell the roses.

MisterAnarchy · 13-08-2025 05:46PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123719984#Comment_123719984

The Dems just need a smart white male candidate and they'll win the next election

Not necessarily.

New voter registrations in the Swing States are going the Republican way.

Democrats are hemorrhaging Black voters. Their historical advantage is being eroded.

If the US economy booms ahead of the Mid terms next year, then the Democrats and every party across the world that pursue the same policies as the Democrats will be in serious trouble.

Trump has largely kept his promises so far, he cut deep in Government employee count, he effectively shut the border. He deregulated the markets.

Ending 2 wars, a good economy, a crackdown on illegal immigration and a pushback on the woke DEI culture would be a successful term of office for Trump.

Whether he can end the wars on reasonable terms and produce a booming economy remains to be seen, but if he does and I suspect he will the Democrats are toast.

threeball · 13-08-2025 05:55PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123719984#Comment_123719984

Senator Ossoff is their best bet. None of the baggage of Newsome. Extremely well spoken, articulate, smart, says all the right things. A white Obama.

Frank Bullitt · 13-08-2025 05:57PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123720027#Comment_123720027

New voter registrations in the Swing States are going the Republican way.
Democrats are hemorrhaging Black voters. Their historical advantage is being eroded.

Proof needed here.

If
the US economy booms ahead of the Mid terms next year, then the Democrats and every party across the world that pursue the same policies as the Democrats will be in serious serious trouble.

If being the important part of this entire statement.

Trump has largely kept his promises so far, he cut deep in Government employee count, he effectively shut the border. He deregulated the markets.

Rubbish. Hasn't done anything to end the war in Ukraine, only stoked the flames on that. The border is open, people just aren't going to the US. The markets have not been deregulated, he has used tariffs to make him and his buddies money.

Ending 2 wars, a good economy, a crackdown on illegal immigration and a pushback on the woke DEI culture would be a successful term of office for Trump.

What wars has he ended? "Woke DEI" congrats, you win the buzzword prize of the day.

Whether he can end the wars on reasonable terms and produce a booming economy remains to be seen, but if he does and I suspect he will the Democrats are toast.

If, yet again. There are no signs that he has any interest in ending wars, other than to get a Nobel prize, which he wants because Obama got one. He still lives rent free in that hollow head of Trumps.

Now, are you still going to claim you are not a Trump supporter after that post?

eagle eye · 13-08-2025 06:06PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123720027#Comment_123720027

I nearly broke my arse laughing at the suggestion that the US economy might boom. Are you not aware of what's going on?

What two wars did he end? He didn't stop Israel, he seems to support them and he bombed Iran.

You think black voters are moving towards a clearly racist Trump?

The cost of living in the US is at an all-time high. All those blue collar and poorer people will vote for the democrats regardless of race.

The majority of voters don't care about woke people.

And I wasn't even talking about the mid-terms, I was talking about the next Presidential election.

But I do believe the mid-terms will be a landslide victory for the Dems. The only people who can stop that happening are the Democrats.

everlast75 · 13-08-2025 06:21PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123719911#Comment_123719911

Everyone knows that when this is confirmed, you'll simply move on to some other pearl clutching point.

Why you're more aggrieved at this suggestion than Adolf Diddler being her best mate, I'll never know...

MisterAnarchy · 13-08-2025 06:33PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123720128#Comment_123720128

You are trying to pass off click bait gossip and speculation as fact.

Podge_irl · 13-08-2025 06:40PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123718669#Comment_123718669

I promise you Switzerland take their defence far too seriously to decide on a particular model of fighter jets to "endear themselves" to a certain government. Trump has managed to make it a political issue however.

It is notable that Trump exempted gold of all things from the tariffs. As clear a sign as you could want of where his actual loyalties lie. The tariffs on pharma will hurt the US more than Switzerland too.

While im far from a fan of Switzerland's implementation of their neutrality, this is just going out of the way, in an almost Trump like manner, to find reasons for schadenfreude.

looksee · 13-08-2025 07:21PM

But all those 'advantages' would overlap on the same core voters. I think there is a vast swathe of people who are sick of him and his messing and will do an 'anything but Trump' vote. I do think, however, that in the long run it would be better for the Dems not to get in too soon, they will have an awful lot of clearing up to do, as usual after the Rs and will not make a great impression.

rolling boh · 13-08-2025 07:40PM

The sooner MAGA are defeated starting with the mid terms the sooner things go back to some form of normality in the states which in term should be better for the rest of us .

AbusesToilets · 13-08-2025 08:30PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123719940#Comment_123719940

You're conveniently ignoring the reality of how Trump and the Republicans have found success in recent elections. Greg Palast has a piece on his site, where he dives into the particulars leading up to the 2024 election. He estimates approximately 4 million eligible voters were struck from electoral roles by Republican efforts. Rampant gerrymandering is the reason Johnson is the speaker, nothing else. The NC republicans stole seats in the last election. That's a 4.5 trillion dollar difference to US society.

The idea that the Democrats need to moderate their message to win over voters is false. If anything, polling has shown that the Democrats have suffered for not listening to the public when it comes to supporting progressive policies. Newsome's u-turn with respect to trans rights is frankly a disgrace. He's buying into a hateful narrative that has been pushed relentlessly by the right, which isn't going to win him any crossover votes either.

My name is URL · 13-08-2025 08:49PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123720151#Comment_123720151

You are a very highly regarded person

breezy1985 · 13-08-2025 08:51PM

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/123720408#Comment_123720408

What was his u-turn on trans rights ?

Google gave me some stuff about trans in sports which is so complex I would give anyone a pass for changing their mind as I myself have done more than once.

Donald Trump the Megathread part II - Mod Warning updated in OP 12/2/26

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