Israel/Palestine Thread

The hypocrisy is astounding:

"Al Jazeera is pushing Hamas propaganda"

says the bloke pushing Israeli propaganda…

Notable that many newsreaders are doing the same and have been for some weeks now.

The Hasbara needs to be challenged and exposed for what it is - pure lies to justify Genocide and illegal land grabbing.

These lads have absolutely no shame at all. Any normal person sees through it instantly - the Israeli mouthpieces are totally embarrassing themselves but I doubt they even know it. Just keep regurgitating utter rubbish.

Throughout this conflict, the IDF, the Israeli Govt., Israeli ambassadors, Israeli diplomats and other spokespersons have been lying, spinning the truth, accusing others of what they are guilty of and condemning any and all criticism of the Israeli campaign.

Their vitriol in response to such criticism has been astonishing and brazen. And it hasn't been limited to foreigners - Israelis, prominent Jews and elements of the Israeli press have also been excoriated.

I'm a little taken aback that the same MO is played out in some posts here when the truth is most certainly readily available if one wants to find it. Only by stating and repeating the truth can readers become informed/educated and make better decisions.

One common theme that has played out here on many occasions goes something like:

1. News report that the IDF destroyed/executed Hamas command centres/operatives.
2. Even before corroborated, there is the accusations that anti-genocide posters are Hamas supporters, anti-semites etc
3. More info comes out proving said command centres were in fact sewage systems or said Hamas operatives were in fact medics or journalists
4. Crickets and tumbleweed from the pro Israelis who made accusations in item 2 and they then disappear for a few days/weeks until item 1 above repeats.

It really is tiresome. There are many here who have no issue with a civil discussion but the constant attacks, bad faith comments and disingenuous arguments would suck the life out of you.

But good faith respectful discussions with honesty on both sides at least leads either to a mutually acceptable dignified disagreement or a shift in position.

It's a shame we a lot less of the latter point than the former.

If read my post carefully, you'll see I stated what the newsreader said. So you can cut out the "naive" accusation.

However, we are aware that five Al Jazeera journalists were executed by Israel simply for being journalists. Moreover, there are very few journalists left in Gaza to report on Israeli atrocities because so many have been murdered. And of course, Israel does not allow foreign journalists into Gaza because they are well aware that the whole truth of their genocide will be revealed.

The deflection on the substantive argument of Israel constantly peddling its lies in the hope it can change the narrative is wearisome.

The only positive is that people of now acutely aware of the constant Israeli lies and are, like that newsreader, calling them out at every single opportunity.

Here's a prime example of the spin Israel puts on news items:

Haaretz:

• The IDF said that 97 aid packages with food for Gaza residents were airdropped into the Strip over the past few hours "as part of the cooperation between Israel, the UAE, Germany, Belgium, France and Italy."

There is no co-operation - Israel was forced to provide aid, which it still is not fully complying with. It continues to actively murder and starve Gazans.

• The Hamas-run Health Ministry reported that Israel killed 89 Palestinians and wounded at least 513 over the past 24 hours. Thirty-one of those killed were hit while trying to get humanitarian aid, and five people, including two children, died of hunger. Gaza rescue services reported that at least 28 people were killed in a series of Israeli strikes on the Zeitoun neighborhood in southeast Gaza City. 61,599 people have been killed in Gaza since the start of the war, according to the ministry.
  

As per the Australian PM, Netanyahu is deluded - everyone knows it.

"In the face of growing international pressure and the quiet rebellion in the military, it is doubtful that Netanyahu can succeed in his plot of mass expulsion. But he will continue to thwart the deal that would free the leader of future Palestine, and the tortured, miserable Israeli hostages in Hamas' tunnels will continue to pay the price"

Aluf Benn

He's gone on holidays.